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Couple of hours free vend on a pod point whilst shopping, plugged in and instantly started charging @7kW result.

There’s a Tesla 3 normally parked here all week looking at Zap-Map comments but he’s parked opposite in a normal space today :p
 
is it unlimited use ? or subject to usual, all vehicle, supermarket/mall stay times.

has ucl done a correlation study between level of covid infection and ev ownership ..
 
It’s a paid carpark in Burton so £1 for 2 hours anyway.

pod point say 2hrs free then £1.50 an hour, but I didn’t log into anything so not sure how they control that aspect anyway. Pod-Point socketed so needed to use my cable.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
It’s a paid carpark in Burton so £1 for 2 hours anyway.

pod point say 2hrs free then £1.50 an hour, but I didn’t log into anything so not sure how they control that aspect anyway. Pod-Point socketed so needed to use my cable.
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Usually with those it only provides power for 15mins to give you time to authenticate the session in the app. It stops if you don’t. Catches a lot of people out as they walk away thinking it’s working.

Perhaps these are setup differently or it lost comms.
 
I use the Pod Point posts at the local Lidl, there are 4 dedicated bays, car parking is free and limited to 3 hours, which works out great as it is right next to the park. Walk the dog, do the shopping, then leave. You need to activate the charging in the app, which takes all of 5 seconds.

If I'm forced to go the local Tesco Superstore they have 8 chargers from Pod Point in their underground car park, think it is 4 hour limit but it is near the centre of town which is handy for the bank/post office and such like, but that they have been used for 9 months now!

Checking the Pod point app I've had over 50kWh of electricity last month, it adds up quickly! :)
 
I quite like physical buttons. The Model 3 has a great user interface (particularly if you use the voice commands) but the screens I’ve used in the Audi A6 and the VW Touareg didn’t work so well for me.

As for the rest of that car - it’s very Lexus. So 1980 called and it wants it’s interior back but it will be built beautifully, extremely refined and they’ll treat you like a truly welcome person in the dealerships. They really do customer service exceptionally well.
 
RoboCod said:
Isn't it just an ICE platform with a battery stuck in it? Fail.
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Unlike anything made by Hyundai, yes? Once the Ioniq 5 comes out we’ll see what they can do with a real BEV platform but all their models right now are very much adapted ICE platforms so I don’t think you can just ‘fail’ Lexus for that.
 
RoboCod said:
Isn't it just an ICE platform with a battery stuck in it? Fail.
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I'm not sure where they actually loose out with that strategy -
now looking at cut away view https://www.automotivepurchasingand...lectric-Lexus-offers-10-year-battery-warranty
- batteries (50odd KWhr) seem, nonetheless, low down, maybe they would allow more with a dedicated platform ?
maybe they couldn't have more batteries because the bodywork is heavy versus a Mod3
- good cd/aero is not, already, a prerogative of a purpose built bev platform (model3 vs gla)
- they're reusing all the internal (1980) fixtures and fittings. - to their and customers mutual pocket/maintenance benefit.
 
WJA96 said:
Unlike anything made by Hyundai, yes? Once the Ioniq 5 comes out we’ll see what they can do with a real BEV platform but all their models right now are very much adapted ICE platforms so I don’t think you can just ‘fail’ Lexus for that.
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It's a honking non-aero SUV :D
 
the public buys what makes the most money for the car companies.

I can see a ressurgence in saloons/estate, for bev market, as the trade-off on autonomy, suv versus saloon, for a given price point(ie battery size) is more significant than ICE.
The SUV using 25% more juice, with its artificial premium of a similar amount (suv'ish Y manufacture, actually costs close to 3)
 
RoboCod said:
It's a honking non-aero SUV :D
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Again, I’m not really sure what you’re looking down your nose at? There will be loads of these sorts of cars - Mercedes EQC (cd 0.29-0.31) is a modified GLC, Vauxhall Mokka e (cd 0.35!) Peugeot e2008 (cd 0.34) etc. etc.

Apparently it’s VERY aero for an SUV (cd 0.31) which admittedly isn’t saying much. Hyundai Kona is 0.29. Tesla Model X, Model S, Model Y, Hyundai Ioniq at 0.24 but the one you really want (again) is the model 3 at 0.23.

http://autodesignmagazine.com/en/2018/10/lexus-ux-the-importance-of-aerodynamics
 
you need the frontal area in that calculation - x5 is like +50% drag than merc cla .
jpaul said:
first law of fightclubaerodynamics cd * frontal area ... how fars your obese suv going to get
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tesla cybertruck has cd 0.36 apparently, so an 80KW battery should give 200+ miles range
 
WJA96 said:
Again, I’m not really sure what you’re looking down your nose at? There will be loads of these sorts of cars - Mercedes EQC (cd 0.29-0.31) is a modified GLC, Vauxhall Mokka e (cd 0.35!) Peugeot e2008 (cd 0.34) etc. etc.

Apparently it’s VERY aero for an SUV (cd 0.31) which admittedly isn’t saying much. Hyundai Kona is 0.29. Tesla Model X, Model S, Model Y, Hyundai Ioniq at 0.24 but the one you really want (again) is the model 3 at 0.23.

http://autodesignmagazine.com/en/2018/10/lexus-ux-the-importance-of-aerodynamics
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You misinterpreted, I'm not looking down my nose at anything. Do you own a Lexus or something?

However, I will contest that those people pursuing "green" probably aren't if they choose a big SUV.
 
Probably are if they want to move a family around in comfort, I mean my insight was great for fuel costs, but was annoying that was only for commuting as it was a 2 seater, not as extreme I know but the simple single layer batteries in low cars does compromise either row2 headroom, or posture or indeed both.

Otherwise there would be no reason for the model X or Y to exist, yeah?
 
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