When will GPUs return to normal pricing....

gpuerrilla · 31 Dec 2020 at 11:53

Your arguing like its 2018. Its been and crashed since then. All the fools sold at a loss as they didnt think BTC could crash. Then all the large mining operations bought up all the cheaper GPU's that idiots bought at retail. The problem was FOMO, money growing on trees philosophy and the GPU makers for not limiting the purchases so it impacted gamers less.

Humans will consume for money, its not a GPU thing. Check up on what ASIC's and FPGA devices are.

Telecaster · 31 Dec 2020 at 17:03

Mining doesn't explain a shortage of low/mid level cards though, as they're useless for that. So is it just flat out gaming demand or something else?

Sleepy Stu · 31 Dec 2020 at 17:09

Telecaster said:
Mining doesn't explain a shortage of low/mid level cards though, as they're useless for that. So is it just flat out gaming demand or something else?

The low level cards havent been released yet for this generation something like a 3050 should be along at some point next year. The stand out card for mining this gen is 3060ti

Telecaster · 31 Dec 2020 at 17:13

Sleepy Stu said:
The low level cards havent been released yet for this generation something like a 3050 should be along at some point next year. The stand out card for mining this gen is 3060ti

I'm talking current gen not next gen low/mid level, there's nothing. I was keeping an eye out for a 1660 super, have they stopped making them?

gpuerrilla · 31 Dec 2020 at 17:18

Telecaster said:
I'm talking current gen not next gen low/mid level, there's nothing. I was keeping an eye out for a 1660 super, have they stopped making them?

With the 3080/70 being so scarce for months other cards were taken like the one you spoke of, the general population and the gen Z wave hoovered up the low end stock. Many people must have upgraded aging rigs or family Dell type rigs accelerated by lockdown rules nothing to do, cinema shut etc. Lots of people have drawn to the content creation boom and tbh most cheap laptops suck so you cannot blame them.

Gerard · 31 Dec 2020 at 18:52

Be interesting to see when ocuk list the cards they have in stock for sale and what the pricing is.

BigBANGtheory · 2 Jan 2021 at 09:35

Stu said:
Some people talking about selling 3080 to get a 3080Ti in a few months...

That’s a little different though on account of the market being skewed right now I.e. a 2nd-hand 3080 you would loose no money on in upgrading unless you got a comedy priced one.

chaparral · 2 Jan 2021 at 10:14

BigBANGtheory said:
That’s a little different though on account of the market being skewed right now I.e. a 2nd-hand 3080 you would loose no money on in upgrading unless you got a comedy priced one.

If someone sold there 3080 now while there prices are high then they would most likely have to wait many months to find a 3080ti in stock

azazl187 · 2 Jan 2021 at 10:30

Gerard said:
Be interesting to see when ocuk list the cards they have in stock for sale and what the pricing is.

i think we can all answer that before it happens

Stu · 2 Jan 2021 at 11:30

chaparral said:
If someone sold there 3080 now while there prices are high then they would most likely have to wait many months to find a 3080ti in stock

Exactly... I don't see the introduction of 3080Ti cards resulting in fixing the skewed pricing of 3080 cards.

chaparral · 2 Jan 2021 at 11:41

Stu said:
Exactly... I don't see the introduction of 3080Ti cards resulting in fixing the skewed pricing of 3080 cards.

Agree..
If it was that easy i would just sell my 2080ti and buy a 3080ti but i won't as i go mad having no high end GPU to play my games for weeks or months.

Am the type of person that always buys the new GPU first, fits it and then sell the old one..
I couldn't deal with this idea of having no GPU or only having a crappy one for months..

Besty · 2 Jan 2021 at 12:58

Telecaster said:
Mining doesn't explain a shortage of low/mid level cards though, as they're useless for that. So is it just flat out gaming demand or something else?

It's a supply chain issue, it seems to be effecting AMD greater than most.

Like i said earlier, nobody on the AMD board is going onto a shareholder call in 26th January (or whenever their Q1 ends) and say that instead of shipping a million 6900/6800 GPU's to AIB's in Q4 they ended up shipping 10,000 which, based on the data you can see on the internet, does not seem far off being fact.

They need to be shipping millions of discrete PC GPU's per quarter, every quarter to stay in business. This is not happening right now.

I would expect that there is a race against time going on in AMD to have a good story ready for 26th January and present some sort of damage limitation on the call. i.e. we did not ship anything in Q4 but stock is now on the shelves as of 24th January.

greatash · 2 Jan 2021 at 13:30

AMD have more important products than GPUs to produce - consoles and CPUs.

4k4uNuNu · 2 Jan 2021 at 13:32

It's pretty funny that a gtx1060 6gb goes for around £200 second hand. A card that can barely do HD games these days.

Telecaster · 2 Jan 2021 at 13:53

4k4uNuNu said:
It's pretty funny that a gtx1060 6gb goes for around £200 second hand. A card that can barely do HD games these days.

Yeah, speaking as someone in the market for a cheap 1080p GPU, it's pretty grim on the used market at the minute.

nthlord · 2 Jan 2021 at 18:24

A while back, a used 1050Ti cost a bit more than a second hand 1060 3gb.They probably figured 1gb of extra VRAM has more value than 50% more performance when looking at the context that both cards are sub 60fps 1080p performers nowadays anyway.

djjuk · 2 Jan 2021 at 19:08

Telecaster said:
Yeah, speaking as someone in the market for a cheap 1080p GPU, it's pretty grim on the used market at the minute.

Depends which side you are on.

I have just sold a 1070 for £280 and a 970 for £115 on eBay. I paid around £400 for the 1070 4 years ago and the 970 has been sat in the drawer for even longer.

A good time to upgrade, if (and I agree it is a big if!) you can get the upgrades at MRSP or close as this situation has without doubt pushed up used values which lowers the overall cost of upgrading.

Nexus18 · 2 Jan 2021 at 19:23

I'll definitely be asking for £300 for my Vega 56 come the time lol

McGraw · 2 Jan 2021 at 19:28

djjuk said:
Depends which side you are on.

I have just sold a 1070 for £280 and a 970 for £115 on eBay. I paid around £400 for the 1070 4 years ago and the 970 has been sat in the drawer for even longer.

A good time to upgrade, if (and I agree it is a big if!) you can get the upgrades at MRSP or close as this situation has without doubt pushed up used values which lowers the overall cost of upgrading.

£280 is not market value for a 1070.

djjuk · 2 Jan 2021 at 19:33

McGraw said:
£280 is not market value for a 1070.

Maybe not. But that is the current reality.