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XeNoNF50 said:
I did a silly and bought the 3090 FE earlier today. Coming from a 3080 FE lol. Didn't think the 3080 was adequate enough for me at 4k so the slight boost is welcomed.
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Same here! Had regrets after not grabbing one last time I saw them come up. Coming from a 3080 ftw3 which was fine, but more is always better, right?

Now trying to cancel order of 3080 waterblock and grabbed a Corsair 3090 one!
 
Pablosammy said:
Fair enough! The Alphacool Eisblock has the ports at the end too in case you hadn't considered it, but I don't blame you for setting your sights on the EK.

The thermals are fantastic in my modest loop now it's under water, and I swear CP2077 is a lot less glitchy! I wonder if it's sensitive to VRAM temps. The backplate isn't getting anywhere near as hot as it was on the stock cooler, I'm debating returning the Mp5works cooler.
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Yep had it in my post right there :p I just cannot work out if it comes with a two slot rear IO plate and e-mailed alphacool but they not replied :( Otherwise indeed would jump for that.

Yeah I suspect to be honest the whole PCB should be cooler from heat getting into the waterblock, so the heat from the rear VRM chips gets spread into a cooler PCB, at least that's my logic so no too worried about getting an active cooler.
 
A2B said:
I don't know what the AIBs are doing. But let's think about how MSRP works, or at least used to: the maker sets a base price, and then competition at retail usually drives the price down lower. So if retail can lower the price without maker involvement, then it can also raise it.

I don't know all the details, only someone working at a retailer would. But one issue is that shipping is getting more expensive, due to unprecedented demand. Brexit red tape may be a factor too. I suspect the AIB has limited influence in the price increases we're seeing.
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It can work like that, but also manufacturers can enforce the retail price. An AIB been a card manufacturer would have more than limited influence, they choose who they sell their cards to, having the power to remove supply from a retailer is more than enough power to control what price they sell at.

If you are a manufacturer, and you have a policy of rigidly sticking to planned price point, why would you let your retailers increase their margins without you increasing your own? that makes no business sense. So its pretty much a given, if the prices are going up, then at the very least some of of that extra margin is on the AIB.
 
Radox-0 said:
Yep had it in my post right there :p I just cannot work out if it comes with a two slot rear IO plate and e-mailed alphacool but they not replied :( Otherwise indeed would jump for that.

Yeah I suspect to be honest the whole PCB should be cooler from heat getting into the waterblock, so the heat from the rear VRM chips gets spread into a cooler PCB, at least that's my logic so no too worried about getting an active cooler.
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My reading skills failing me again :D I think your logic is right - I had it in my head that the FE stock cooler directed some airflow over the rear VRM modules, and a passive backplate would struggle, but that simply hasn't been the case for me so far.
 
I was trying 3070 FE idle zero fan again. In Argus Monitor software I can select GPU Fan > Manual, Software Curve or BIOS Controlled, with BIOS Controlled zero fan kicks in. Then load a game, works on BIOS fan curve, stop it and the temp keeps dropping, but the zero fan fails to kick in and stays at 30% speed until I select BIOS controlled on the drop down again. It's bugged or hopefully its something that can be fixed it software / Afterburner / Argus Monitor.
 
Anyone else noticed rtx seems to use more system ram as well? In BFV im using over 16 gigs in some instances, whereas before it would be around 8-10 tops.

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the_chez said:
Can I ask if you did anything to receive the code? I have a 3070 but did not receive anything or claimed anything. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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They just emailed it to me. I didn't request it or do anything other than purchase a GPU.

Oh hang on. The game code is only for the 3080 and 3090 cards.
 
chrcoluk said:
Yet distributors and retails dont do the same on consoles and FE cards. We will go round in circles. Even if the gouging was all on the retailer, the AIB is complicit by allowing it.

For reference **** direct store sells a 3080 for within the price range I posted. :) Yes I did check before I posted.
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True but the likes of Game, Tesco and Amazon aren't going to risk being on the front page of the Daily Mail to make a few £ on a PS5. Laterally no one cares outside of this community about the price of a GPU. Its a niche product at the end of the day that has historically had little price controls in place, most computers are laptops and most desktops are prebuilt.

chrcoluk said:
It can work like that, but also manufacturers can enforce the retail price. An AIB been a card manufacturer would have more than limited influence, they choose who they sell their cards to, having the power to remove supply from a retailer is more than enough power to control what price they sell at.

If you are a manufacturer, and you have a policy of rigidly sticking to planned price point, why would you let your retailers increase their margins without you increasing your own? that makes no business sense. So its pretty much a given, if the prices are going up, then at the very least some of of that extra margin is on the AIB.
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You asked me for evidence, how about the evidence for your claims? It's generally illegal for suppliers to control retail prices in the UK and EU. It all comes down to the product and what the retailer can get away with. That bring me back to the point above, very few people outside of this community even knows what a graphics card is let alone how much it should actually cost. There is little risk of any major block back to inflating prices of in demand products. GPU manufactures just don't have the sway like the likes of Apple who will draw significant numbers of customers to their stores.

In reality the whole supply chain is taking a bit more and there are other things to take into consideration at the moment but I have no doubt retails are taking the biggest advantage as there are cards going for RRP (or close to still) from some places. Normally at this stage of the release cycle cards would normally come to Europe via boat which is far cheaper than air but that just isn't happening because no none want to wait an extra 2 weeks for the products to arrive.

Cards like the Asus Strix OC were always going to be £800+ cards from day one. Yes - Asus makes more money off a STRIX OC card than a TUF non-OC card, that much is obvious but its why it has all the 'for gamers' marketing behind it. The 3080 TUF non-OC was always going to be a £700 card after Nvidia's initial rebate per card was exhausted. In reality very few retailers have been taking orders since launch day and we all know OCUK isn't afraid to stick a big mark up on anything which is likely to sell out.
 
Zeeflyboy said:
It took too long to let me log in... site was slow. Couldn’t get in for a couple of minutes by which time obviously all gone.

congrats on the win!

I wonder if the amount of “competition” on the discord apps is slowly reducing as people get the cards they want or if the new growth of people using them outpaces those dropping off.
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I was monitoring the amount of users after the 3080 specifically, it has gone up by 500 in a week.
 
@Gerard

How you finding the 3070 coming from your vega 64, drivers, control panel and all?

Manage to sort your crashes too?

Also, do you notice an image quality difference between the 2 in terms of the LOD, clarity and colours that some always mention.
 
Tobias said:
I was monitoring the amount of users after the 3080 specifically, it has gone up by 500 in a week.
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The 23rd December drop was missed by a bunch of discords, which led to most people consolidating into the ones that get there first....me included....I suspect that's the main reason numbers have gone up.

It does mean you have more people scrambling in the first few seconds to get in there as everyone is on the same alerts now.
 
The issue now is that the general lack of stock is causing people to just scramble to buy anything that drops even if it’s not the product they actually want.

Just look in this thread, people are buying a 3070 or 3060ti and still trying to buy the 3080 which is just adding to the problem.

I imagine people are also not cancelling their alerts once they have what they want and there are also lots of opportunists trying to take advantage of the alerts now. I saw a few scalpers get banned from the channel when it was a much smaller community.
 
Nexus18 said:
@Gerard

How you finding the 3070 coming from your vega 64, drivers, control panel and all?

Manage to sort your crashes too?

Also, do you notice an image quality difference between the 2 in terms of the LOD, clarity and colours that some always mention.
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I do miss the Radeon software it has more stuff to tinker with. Regarding IQ when gaming at 4k it has always looked fantastic on either brand.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
True but the likes of Game, Tesco and Amazon aren't going to risk being on the front page of the Daily Mail to make a few £ on a PS5. Laterally no one cares outside of this community about the price of a GPU. Its a niche product at the end of the day that has historically had little price controls in place, most computers are laptops and most desktops are prebuilt.



You asked me for evidence, how about the evidence for your claims? It's generally illegal for suppliers to control retail prices in the UK and EU. It all comes down to the product and what the retailer can get away with. That bring me back to the point above, very few people outside of this community even knows what a graphics card is let alone how much it should actually cost. There is little risk of any major block back to inflating prices of in demand products. GPU manufactures just don't have the sway like the likes of Apple who will draw significant numbers of customers to their stores.
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I have a decade of working in manufacturing, I do have experience of manufacturing to retail pricing, and its not illegal. Sony, microsoft routinely do it for their products, apple have also done it. As well as food manufacturers.

I think we are actually agreeing on whats happening, I never said retailers are not adding margins, they are, I think its on the entire supply chain as you said. The disagreement is on the extent of which part of the supply chain.
 
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the retailer is doing strange things with the 3090 FE. it's now listed on its own branded pages as in stock, yet not searchable afaiks. that's after yesterday listing it twice on different urls with nvidia branding. wtf?
 
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