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shorts are not going to wait until monday right? if they have to buy shares they are going to do it in aftermarket?

That depends really. Supply and demand. I'm not sure what the current % is but if they all wanted to get out before the weekend they would have to potentially buy 120% of the total shares available. That seems unlikely considering the number of people that don't want to sell.
 
shorts are not going to wait until monday right? if they have to buy shares they are going to do it in aftermarket?

cos everyone is saying hold till monday for AMC, I'm not convinced if the shorts are "supposed" to expire today

It seems today is just a rumour and there isn't actually an expiration date. I'm not nkowledgable enough about shorts, but i keep seeing comments about needing to hold above $320 for them to trigger or something like that?



About this

https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1355163433700745220?s=19

What i don't get is why he's waiting for Asian markets to open? Gamestop aren't listed on Asian markets are they so why's he not just buying now (unless it's bull****)
 
Probably going to get burned for this but I miss the days this thread was a sensible discussion about investing and not all about mindless gambling! :p
 
People should watch the big short. Its not entirely accurate as far as I know but essentially its about the guys shorting the market because they saw that it was built on a house of cards that were made out of wet toilet paper.

As far as I know, shorts can have expiries or they can simply have costs associated with holding the position for longer. That was one of the main points of the film. It doesn't matter if you are correct about your short position if you have to get out before your predicted crash happens. They knew the whole thing was rotten but it kept rumbling and rumbling along and the people shorting it were slowly bleeding out as they were forced to either accept defeat or pay to keep their position.
 
It seems today is just a rumour and there isn't actually an expiration date. I'm not nkowledgable enough about shorts, but i keep seeing comments about needing to hold above $320 for them to trigger or something like that?
I'm talking about AMC it was only shorted about 37% compared to game 100+

people are saying we need to hold t he price above 9 today and then the shorters will have to buy shares monday.

you never now what is BS though and I'm not convinced anyone really knows when shorts expire.

originally with game people were saying it could be one week , one month or longer.


GME is obviously very different and hedge funds shorted it so much it was easy for them to be eaten alive in fees, hence marvin capital needing billions
 
I'm talking about AMC it was only shorted about 37% compared to game 100+

people are saying we need to hold t he price above 9 today and then the shorters will have to buy shares monday.

you never now what is BS though and I'm not convinced anyone really knows when shorts expire.

originally with game people were saying it could be one week , one month or longer
Not too clued up on AMC, but what call options are expiring today? That's part of what GME is riding on..
 
Not too clued up on AMC, but what call options are expiring today? That's part of what GME is riding on..
honestly no idea, I don't think hedge funds need to even disclose it

but I'm up 15% on a whole 2 shares of amc lol

amc looks like it might hit 16 sooon, started at like 13
 
Probably going to get burned for this but I miss the days this thread was a sensible discussion about investing and not all about mindless gambling! :p

I concur.

Hopefully it'll be gone by Monday. I'm just hoping this stupid stuff doesn't trigger something bigger
 
The whole "shorts expire today/tomorrow/weeks " time is nonsense.

No hedge fund will release or provide that information as this scenario is exact what would happen every time..... If you had to provide information when the shorts were called in, people would drive the price up every single time.

It's a load of nonsense. There are shorts, but there is no solid/creditable information given out as to how much the shorts are/how many each fund/hedge manager holds/when they expire etc.

In that case - why would you ever short something, if you knew as you approached the call date, it was public/known information, and the price would be forced up every time.

Please don't think this is anything but public gamble/experiment on some stocks of companies. There is some solid information out there but some of the nonsense I'm reading on here/Reddit is laughable
 
Completely agree but the GME situation is very interesting.

Been a fasctinating few days for sure. Central bank liquidity aka market manipulation and the destruction of risk pricing and capital market functioning is rearing itself in a very strange way indeed. All for the WSB crew doing what they're doing but if anyone is to blame for all of this it's Jerome Powell.
 
Consequences for shorting a company into being massively undervalued.

Versus pumping a stock into being massively over-valued?

Not being able to/wanting to cover their losses so manipulating trading companies into limiting what the regular traders are allowed to do in order to reduce the price of the shares?

Fits the victim narrative well, but isn't borne of anything but pure speculation.

This GME thing is just the latest instance of people figuring out that social media is a useful tool to manipulate people into serving their interests. I bet this DFV trader dude is ******* himself at how easy it's been to boost his latest stock punt.

The people making big bank on this are the big institutional investors, not the redditors.
 
It's a load of nonsense. There are shorts, but there is no solid/creditable information given out as to how much the shorts are/how many each fund/hedge manager holds/when they expire etc.

I believe the "short", done by Melvin Capital, was done through options - and these are disclosed quarterly through regulatory filings with the SEC.

The daily figures available for how much a stock is shorted do not disclose who holds those positions.
 
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