Is it a bad time to upgrade?

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I was thinking about patching up the pc because I desperately need a new case with much better airflow. I have 7 fans running, a liquid cooler / radiator on the cpu and the 1080ti iusing the stock fans with a custom fan curve but the cpu just sizzles all the time. The other reason was just to bring the system more upto date and speedier. I'm not playing games or rendering / editing files as much as I used to but I would still like the option of playing the newer titles with a stable fps at max graphics without it chugging along. The cpu and the temperatures are definitely at fault here, dips in frames and stutters are becoming all too common on the open world games especially.

Current rig details are as follows 1080ti gpu, 4790k cpu, 16gb (2x8) 2133mhz ram, Gigabyte z97 Soc Force mobo, Evga SuperNova G2 1000w psu then a couple of standard storage drives and some 840 and 850 Samung Evo ssd's. Current monitor is a Asus Rog Swift at 1440p 144hz with g-sync.

What concerns me about hardware at the minute are the shortages and price hikes of gpu's. Is this a gpu only issue or is every hardware component in short supply with price hikes? The costs of hardware components seem to have almost doubled since the end of 2014 when I last upgraded the bulk of my system, 1080ti and a 1tb 850 Evo were additions since.

If it's best to wait I will probably revive this thread at some point in the future. I never set budgets but if the current prices are higher than usual I would rather wait for them to stabilise. I never really do the play the waiting game either, if I need something I generally just get the best price vs performance option available, but I did read earlier that some new cpu's are set to launch soon and the 3080ti whenever that launches.

I was going to ask for somebody to spec me a rig to replace whatever needs replacing from my current components above, as well as a case that will not only be spacious enough to fit everything in but with good airflow too and hopefully not too noisy, but I'll see what you people think, as said I could revive or start a new thread in a few months time if I really ought to be waiting.
 
A 1080ti is still a solid card and more than enough for casual gaming the same with a 4790k although a CPU upgrade would give you a bit more umph I don't think it will be game changing.

If it's running hot you could try repasting if that's not been done for a while.

What size is the rad?
 
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I would retain the 1080ti its a great graphics card and GPU's at moment are overpriced and none existent. Retain the storage and re-use it.

I did not add a PSU, because you seem to have a powerful one. Just consider if your old PSU is out of warranty.

The case, I put is a midi tower with great reviews, glass panels, no RGB but with a fan controller with 3 PWM fans.

You could add an NVME drive for speed, something like a 970 Evo plus or a Samsung 980 pro would be great, but pricy.

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A 1080ti is still a solid card and more than enough for casual gaming the same with a 4790k although a CPU upgrade would give you a bit more umph I don't think it will be game changing.

If it's running hot you could try repasting if that's not been done for a while.

What size is the rad?

It was done a short while ago as in the past year. The cpu temp would probably be fixed with a simple case change with much better airflow. The cooler was the Asetek 570lx 240mm. I'm not sure if it was ever any good tbh, it was the one thing I cheaped out on in the selection process.
 
From reviews it appears that 4 core 4/8 thread cpu are starting to cause stutter in some newer games, as you game at 1440p there will be more bottleneck on the gpu than at 1080p gaming. So for games an intel 10400f or ryzen 3600 will be cost effective upgrades. Prices are reasonable on the 10400f, motherboard and ram at the moment. Your cooler seems to review ok. Your gpu isn't going to max new games but is still good outside of ray tracing and will provide a good experience in games until gpu prices and availability improve. So if you want to upgrade yes you can do at a reasonable cost with an intel 10400f
 
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The case, I put is a midi tower with great reviews, glass panels, no RGB but with a fan controller with 3 PWM fans.

Thanks for this. I'm really out of the loop when it comes to the newer hardware. I know AMD Ryzen is all the hype right now but what is the Intel equivalent to the 5800x? The I9 10900k? I ask because I have traditionally gone with Intel. Bought a few AMD gpu's in the past but had some pretty rough experiences with them.
 
GPU prices are bonkers right now due to the Cryptocurrency miners. As long as said miners are making a profit & the likes of bitcoin & other crytocurrencies keeps being valued at sky high prices then miners will pay any price for a GPU. That & the rumour going round that China has a shortage of shipping containers, Silicon Manufacturing is being disrupted by water shortages etc.etc. if you believe all the excuses that the tech firms are spewing out since mid to late last year. I blame the cryptocurrency miners myself.

On a final note I'd go with the upgrade @VonScar suggested. Prices on those won't or haven't fluctuated too much so buy with confidence.

11th gen intel is due to launch soon but one early review of a 11th gen CPU suggests it runs stupidly hot & is too power hungry. 10th gen could be alternative but with that & AMD's problems with USB disconnection on very few of their x570/5*** cpu combos, its a case of picking one of the 2 evils. I'd go for X570/3700x or 3900x myself.
 
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Thanks for this. I'm really out of the loop when it comes to the newer hardware. I know AMD Ryzen is all the hype right now but what is the Intel equivalent to the 5800x? The I9 10900k? I ask because I have traditionally gone with Intel. Bought a few AMD gpu's in the past but had some pretty rough experiences with them.


The 5800X will beat the top end 10900K in many benchmarks and gaming. 10900K is also end of life. The new Intel equivalent will be the 11900K, which will suck more energy, run hot and is the same core count as the Zen 3....To clarify, 8 cores and 16 threads.

Anyway Rocket Lake is due for replacement again at the end of the year with Alder Lake....So Rocket Lake is EOL before release....And Rocket Lake is 14 nm, a 6 year old production process.
 
The 5800X will beat the top end 10900K in many benchmarks and gaming. 10900K is also end of life. The new Intel equivalent will be the 11900K, which will suck more energy, run hot and is the same core count as the Zen 3....To clarify, 8 cores and 16 threads.

Anyway Rocket Lake is due for replacement again at the end of the year with Alder Lake....So Rocket Lake is EOL before release....And Rocket Lake is 14 nm, a 6 year old production process.

Thanks, just before I leave you in peace, a few little questions if you don't mind. What about AMD's upcoming batch? I also just wanted to clarify something regarding the mobo, is it missing any important features? and I take it a cooler is not necessary? As for the case would more case fans be required? I'll probably go ahead and order what you posted in the next few days, just want to be absolutely sure before I purchase though.
 
You'll have 5 Case fans including 2 on the AIO, I think that will be enough. You just need to make sure that Your Asetek has AM4 fittings.
 
I upgraded my 1070 to a 3070 and stuck with my 4790k.

if I’m going to drop at least £700 on an upgrade I want it to be meaningful.

Might have gone for a 5800x if AMD hadn’t got greedy.

Can see ddr5 in my future
 
Thanks, just before I leave you in peace, a few little questions if you don't mind. What about AMD's upcoming batch? I also just wanted to clarify something regarding the mobo, is it missing any important features? and I take it a cooler is not necessary? As for the case would more case fans be required? I'll probably go ahead and order what you posted in the next few days, just want to be absolutely sure before I purchase though.

AMD not due for 6000 batch for some time.

X570 motherboards offer pcie - 4, that board had wi fi. Blue tooth needed?

You could get B550 motherboard, which has no fan on Southbridge, but is slightly cut down chipset.


PS 5800X solid chip. Built a system with one, fast and capable.
 
AMD not due for 6000 batch for some time.

X570 motherboards offer pcie - 4, that board had wi fi. Blue tooth needed?

You could get B550 motherboard, which has no fan on Southbridge, but is slightly cut down chipset.

PS 5800X solid chip. Built a system with one, fast and capable.

Nah, it's fine. I'll go with the above, that mobo is out of stock at the moment though as is the case, so I'll have to check back in a few days. Would rather buy it all from OC under one delivery
 
Intel is better VFM right now and you can get an 8 core 10700k for £320 or a 10 core 10850k for £380 vs AMDs 6 core for £330 or 8 core for £420, for gaming there is really no difference especially if you overclock the Intel chips and with Intel having the extra cores £ for less cancels out AMDs productivity advantage.

Unless you plan to change the GPU right now then I'd consider waiting till the end of the year as both Intel and AMD have new sockets coming which will support DDR5 and a new line of CPUs so you have better upgrade options in the future.
 
Intel is better VFM right now and you can get an 8 core 10700k for £320 or a 10 core 10850k for £380 vs AMDs 6 core for £330 or 8 core for £420, for gaming there is really no difference especially if you overclock the Intel chips and with Intel having the extra cores £ for less cancels out AMDs productivity advantage.

Unless you plan to change the GPU right now then I'd consider waiting till the end of the year as both Intel and AMD have new sockets coming which will support DDR5 and a new line of CPUs so you have better upgrade options in the future.

Is the above simply based on price v performance then? Or are the Intel options listed actually better in some or most ways?

As for waiting I could do that, but I really need a case pronto, and needing a case as well as facing some problems with stutter in some open world games pushed me into the upgrade route. A 3080 or a 3080ti or better on the side would be a wonderful upgrade, but stock availability and price is going to be a problem, I did say above budget is not an issue but I couldn't sleep at night if I spent well above rsp.

I will think about it over the course of the next few days. I will definitely be getting the case either way though.
 
As you game at 1440p you will not be able to tell the difference between using a 10400f upwards to say a 10700f with the naked eye, so intel or AMD doesn't really matter. Some people swear by intel saying that their systems are more stable. At the moment AMD has support for pcie 4 which doesn't make much difference on the gpu or nvme for gaming. A 10400f etc will make a cheap upgrade and the money saved can go towards a new gpu at a later date. The 10700f while more expensive will be more future proof and work better for video editing. Horses for courses. Either way the intel 10th gen is currently at a keen price and you can sleep well knowing that you haven't spent well above rsp

https://youtu.be/PSxuiWih_Z8?t=270
 
Is the above simply based on price v performance then? Or are the Intel options listed actually better in some or most ways?

As for waiting I could do that, but I really need a case pronto, and needing a case as well as facing some problems with stutter in some open world games pushed me into the upgrade route. A 3080 or a 3080ti or better on the side would be a wonderful upgrade, but stock availability and price is going to be a problem, I did say above budget is not an issue but I couldn't sleep at night if I spent well above rsp.

I will think about it over the course of the next few days. I will definitely be getting the case either way though.

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A cheaper alternative from AMD.

6 core CPU, good bang for buck with good multi-tasking and good gaming performance. 16 Gig of DDR4 at 3200 MHz, ATX motherboard with good reviews.

Note, two less cores, no wi-fi, RAM speed 400 MHz less and half of popular amount for PC (32 Gigabytes). £300.00 cheaper....Allows an upgrade to 16 core CPU later if you wish....5950X.
 
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