Look, my friend, I have no agenda and don't care about losing arguments. I have no issue with admitting I'm wrong about something and encourage anyone to do so in the interests of the best possible outcome of any situation. You don't have to believe me at all. I'm just glad I got the help that I did when I did.
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Look, my friend, I have no agenda and don't care about losing arguments. I have no issue with admitting I'm wrong about something and encourage anyone to do so in the interests of the best possible outcome of any situation. You don't have to believe me at all. I'm just glad I got the help that I did when I did.
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Piers Morgan, the former tabloid editor and phone hacker extraordinaire, is enraged at Meghan making allegations, trashing reputations and generally building unfair caricatures.
The irony meter goes off the scale..
He along with others should have gone to jail for what they did. He should never have got another job in journalism. The man is pure scum. His false indignation at this story is hypocrisy in the extreme, the man would ruin lives for a headline and not bat an eyelid. Me thinks he is eying an honour from the Queen, I can't think of many less deserving of one.
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Report to who? HR? Its a family member. I would imagine he thought WTF and walked off. That is what I've done when I've heard family members say racist things. Its not and they aren't worth the effort of an argument. it won't change who they are.
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As opposed to making it up to win arguments in interviews on TV? Why should anyone believe any of that either? She's consistently lied or misrepresented theres a long list of them already in this thread and in addition to that according to her she only changed her name to Markle after she started daing Harry, well her sister spoke up and said she changed it back in 1997 and had the paperwork to prove it she also stated she hasn't seen her sister in 20 years, thats also demonstratively false as her sister showed pictures of them at her gradution 13 years ago.
The womans a serial liar so why should I or anyone else take anything she says seriously? She complains she felt abandoned yet left her father alone on hospital ward after heart surgery she hasn't spoken to him since never mind seen his grandchild. Despicable.
You don't want the effort of an argument but don't mind a sly dig by dropping a bomb shell that you're not prepared to substantiate is not the actions of someone genuinely offended and more one of someone playing a media revenge campaign.
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I won't labour the point any further than to add that I believe your candid decision to share personal information just as much as I believe anyone who shares such information. It takes a lot of courage to share an account of personal suffering, and unless someone had to provide a contradictory account of events then I wouldn't have any reason to dispute it.
Which Meghan Markle referred to in the interview, so she contradicted herself for the purpose of race baiting. Which might well be politically and financially beneficial to her, but it's definitely unethical.
Anonymity eventually turns many forum posters on many forums into blithering idiots, on both sides of all internet arguments. I'd love one day to see internet anonymity abolished in some fashion, I know not how, but it will never happen. Like many things in life if you present a human with the opportunity to do something or say something without real world repercussion they will often do/say it. I suspect thats where the old posed question of "If you were guaranteed to get away with it, would you do X?" comes from.
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As soon as you see the phrase, "playing the race card", then you know what you're dealing with. Like you say, there isn't even a pretence about it.
I find it quite interesting that she mentioned she didn’t bother looking into the royal family that much when she was with Harry.
Surely you would be looking into the family, if you are expecting to marry someone from the royal family??
Hopefully all this nonsense will come to an end now that they have had “their say”. Getting quite fed of hearing about it now.
Surely you would be looking into the family, if you are expecting to marry someone from the royal family??
Hopefully all this nonsense will come to an end now that they have had “their say”. Getting quite fed of hearing about it now.
There was no reason to do this interview, especially when they claimed to be leaving the UK for a quiet life. Since then they have signed a netflix deal, created a podcast, and now this interview. I think its obvious the objective wasnt to live a quiet life but to control their own future.
I think they are both flawed people. Meghan was walking in to a world she didn't understand and Harry didn't seem to prepare her for it. I always remember an interview they did I think before they were married and Meghan was answering questions and Harry was just sat there, not taking any lead. I can understand he might be aware of 'mansplaining' but when someone you love/like is struggling you should help them. He never did. So I think the drift between Meghan and the Royals increased over time.
I know quite a few Americans and most seem to assume that we're the same culture as the US just with a little extra history. I think that is how Meghan thought things would be. Without Harry teaching her the ways to act in both our culture and Royal protocal she as winged it and made some statements that make her look foolish. Harry knew the truth about their children and titles yet let her think something different.
I don't like how he has acted to his own family, and also to Meghans father. It's usually a wise move not to get involved in direct arguing with your partners family.
I think they are both flawed people. Meghan was walking in to a world she didn't understand and Harry didn't seem to prepare her for it. I always remember an interview they did I think before they were married and Meghan was answering questions and Harry was just sat there, not taking any lead. I can understand he might be aware of 'mansplaining' but when someone you love/like is struggling you should help them. He never did. So I think the drift between Meghan and the Royals increased over time.
I know quite a few Americans and most seem to assume that we're the same culture as the US just with a little extra history. I think that is how Meghan thought things would be. Without Harry teaching her the ways to act in both our culture and Royal protocal she as winged it and made some statements that make her look foolish. Harry knew the truth about their children and titles yet let her think something different.
I don't like how he has acted to his own family, and also to Meghans father. It's usually a wise move not to get involved in direct arguing with your partners family.
As much as I love internet anonymity, for certain uses, I agree that overall it would make the internet a much better place to visit.
People are all too happy to talk rudely to others from the comfort of their keyboard/phone knowing they wont have any ramifications coming back to them.
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That's definitely true, although I would add that communicating with strangers via the forum format can be quite deceiving. Context & intent can easily be miscommunicated and I'd bet that most people are very different IRL to the picture/persona that we can inadvertently find ourselves building in our head.
I think that it's all too easy when you see words on a screen because it's hard to imagine that there's another person reading them and being affected by them.
If you go on e.g. Twitch and see that your words are read [and sometimes read out loud] by another person in real-time, it makes a huge difference. But I think that as long as people are just words on a screen, not much will change.
Oh I agree. It's like that Key and Peele skit where two friends are communicating over text message. One is really chill and the other is taking everything the other friend is saying as being confrontational. As good at it as we are, communicating over text isn't really humans strong point as you miss out on tone and body language.
That being said I try really hard to talk on here exactly as I would as if it was to directly to their face. I don't particularly like when people are rude to me so I like to think if I'm not rude to others, they'll reciprocate. Not always the case though!
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The problem on here is that things can quickly descend to conversational combat where everyone involved gets more focused on winning the argument as opposed to actually taking anything constructive from the conversation. Conceding a point seems to be just about the most difficult step to take.
I include myself in the above, but I'm trying to recognise it happening and now prefer to unsubscribe from the thread for a while rather than go round in the inevitable circles.
Indeed - given that harry is on mental health charity boards, and purports to champion the issue, it seem perverse that he would not have addressed her problems, and obtained support she required, so, her, the palace rejected that accusation, sounds incongruous.
Turn telly off
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I've read it all now, Harry was aware of "mansplaining" so he didn't step forward to help Meghan?
Some one nuke the west please.
Some one nuke the west please.
Did someone accuse him of that? It's an awfully sexist control tactic.
EDIT: oh, he "might be aware of mainsplaining", not the same thing. And no-one should pay attention to such accusations.