*** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 SERIES STOCK SITUATION - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION ***

[interpol24]

Its not OC mistake doh? Its brexit. Nobody had an idea what would happen until the day Brexit actually happened. The customs part is just unlucky on our part since the shortages made us wait so long for brexit to actually happen.

No one knew what the exact details of Brexit were going to be but everyone knew the date they would be applying from, just over three months after the launch date. OC didn't have to take full payment up front, they didn't have to take orders from outside the UK at all and they had plenty of opportunity to stop taking orders before they eventually did. Saying it's not their fault is like saying if there's rain forecast for later in the day and you go out without a coat it's the weather's fault that you got wet.

 

[BONDPlayz]

No one knew what the exact details of Brexit were going to be but everyone knew the date they would be applying from, just over three months after the launch date. OC didn't have to take full payment up front, they didn't have to take orders from outside the UK at all and they had plenty of opportunity to stop taking orders before they eventually did. Saying it's not their fault is like saying if there's rain forecast for later in the day and you go out without a coat it's the weather's fault that you got wet.

Tbf to them they didnt really expect such a **** show for stock and I remember one of them saying something about their servers crashing and stopping them from stopping orders not sure how it totally went but something along those lines. Its unfortunate the state we are in but the fact is I doubt OC would have gotten any stock from AIBs if they didnt take money for the orders.

 

[interpol24]

Tbf to them they didnt really expect such a **** show for stock and I remember one of them saying something about their servers crashing and stopping them from stopping orders not sure how it totally went but something along those lines. Its unfortunate the state we are in but the fact is I doubt OC would have gotten any stock from AIBs if they didnt take money for the orders.

They didn't expect supply problems despite pandemic, looming Brexit and increasing shortages across the industry. Who knows what conversations happened around the time, but my guess would be they saw the signs and decided to gamble when competitors were taking a more conservative approach. Gamble or not, it was a mistake.

As I recall, the servers were restored long before they had stopped taking orders but they might have halted orders outside the UK once they saw the numbers of orders. I'm not sure and I'm not going to fish out the post now. In any case, their system was taking orders and charging customers when they were unable to monitor the orders coming through, probably by design to avoid missing out on those lucrative launch sales. By design or not, it was a mistake.

I hope you're not right about them needing the revenue from sales of orders that can't yet be fulfilled just to secure stock to fulfill those orders, but if you are that is definitely precarious and a mistake.

 

[Tinek]

Its not OC mistake doh? Its brexit. Nobody had an idea what would happen until the day Brexit actually happened. The customs part is just unlucky on our part since the shortages made us wait so long for brexit to actually happen.

Erm, what? Nobody knew what would happen with Brexit? There's been PLENTY of warnings of what would happen and many got fulfilled in practice. It was all very predictable, for years - we were just told over and over again that government is very aware and very prepared for it all. And here we are.

 

[Picko]

[QUOTE="ScottiB, post: 34628004, member:
There's only one queue that you can be in, we've received less than 300 cards in six months, I honestly can't see any way that we'll receive three times that in the next six months. You're doing yourself a disservice if you've got that much hardware sat idle and you're not exploring other alternatives.

I'm not telling you to cancel but, at least, consider it, don't sit on your hands. I'll be genuinely surprised if Asus deliver 1000 units of that card before Christmas.

Also, if there's any card where we end up being forced to cancel orders, whether through losses or, more likely, because they get discontinued, this is the prime candidate.[/QUOTE]




I’m a little confused with the numbers since I’ve moved down 1229 place in six months

 

[ScottiB]

I’m a little confused with the numbers since I’ve moved down 1229 place in six months

I'm confused too then, unless those were cancellations. From your queue number I could only imagine that you are waiting for a TUF Gaming non OC.
I was looking at cards received vs your queue number, less than 250 cards received in six months, over 900 ahead of you in the queue.
If all that is correct then my advice still holds true.

 

[denigor777]

I doubt OC would have gotten any stock from AIBs if they didnt take money for the orders.

Do OCUK need to prove they have orders before they can order the stock themselves? Open their books to Chinese AIB's? I thought that they just ordered and didn't need to prove anything, as a long-reputable retailer. But, what do I know.

I wonder how Purchase Orders work, given that the wholesale price (to OCUK) isn't known or agreed so far in advance.

 

[Oliver Leveroni]

as if i'm pretty much being told to swivel on it after putting together an entire new build over a year :/ not blaming OCUK I realise they're at the mercy of suppliers as i too work in the middleman business but I'm honestly absolutely fuming as im now stuck with a purposebuilt 4k rig incapable of running anything at 4k and I don't earn enough money to spaff on a scalper card or a 3090

 

[Ur round next]

as if i'm pretty much being told to swivel on it after putting together an entire new build over a year :/ not blaming OCUK I realise they're at the mercy of suppliers as i too work in the middleman business but I'm honestly absolutely fuming as im now stuck with a purposebuilt 4k rig incapable of running anything at 4k and I don't earn enough money to spaff on a scalper card or a 3090

Its bad times

 

[Werewolf]

Its Irish goverment who is putting on the Customs charges, thought computer components were supposed to be exempt, just them trying to cash grab.

You may be getting confused a bit.

Most customs charges in the UK/EU can be due to two things, one is the VAT which is usually due on anything over a very small amount (in the UK it's now anything, in most of the EU it's around £15) except for things like basic foods, the other is Duty which may be nothing, or may be a lot depending on the item* but usually if it's applicable only kicks in over a certain limit, IIRC in the UK Duty only kicks in if the item is worth over something like £135 and I think may be applicable even if there is no VAT.

So a graphics card will almost always be eligible for VAT (either at source or on import), but may not have any Duty applied.

So if you get a package that is eligible for VAT but there is no proof it's been paid customs charges will apply, IIRC OCUK have registered for Irish VAT and charged it, but due to issues with Brexit and couriers are having problems getting the couriers to accept that it's prepaid, hence the hold on DPD orders.
There are also a number of legal issues so it's not simple for OCUK to sort especially for orders that shipped already and got returned, I think ScottiB has explained a few times what's going on with them (basically from what I understand they can't simply refund the vat on returned orders and reship them as the tax man gets very picky about that sort of thing).


*Duty codes are a nightmare, as very similar seeming things can have different codes and rates (IIRC electric watches, mechanical watches and antique watches all have different codes for example), unlike vat which is usually fairly simple and about 2 rates.

 

[interpol24]

So if you get a package that is eligible for VAT but there is no proof it's been paid customs charges will apply

Thanks, that answers a question I asked during the week. Basically, if the VAT issues can be resolved there's a chance the additional customs charges will not apply. Still worth holding out then, for now.

 

[cruz0e]

I bought a 3080 card in September (release day), and I am still waiting. I bought that card from an EU country (from Ireland), I don't care if they exited EU, when we made the contract it was EU, so EU rules should apply.

Why I am not getting any queue updates since 8th of January ?

Is it the VAT/TAX problem? You already paid the tax? You can get a refund like every1 else, pay the VAT too and ask for refund... and if you lose some money on the 'difference' you should swallow the pill... you guys made millions of pounds profit selling tens of thousands of cards... you can survive a little money loss...

Also if you are so greedy and you don't want lose a cent, I wouldn't mind to pay extra, pay that VAT difference or the full VAT until you get the TAX refunded, but you not even talking to us, how long more I have to wait? I waited 6 months already! SIX months!

 

[discoally]

I just hope with all these stock issues, those still in a queue will get moved onto a 3080ti queue if willing to pay the difference. A little unfair to have to sit there hoping to beat the bots again!

Just my opinion but I think that given all the shortages of components etc, AIB's are going to move there production to the "upcoming" TI and newer variants of the 3080/3070. Then they can build cards with components that they will have less issues getting. Still won't help with the shortage of RAM and other key items but meh, who knows.

 

[martind]

I just hope with all these stock issues, those still in a queue will get moved onto a 3080ti queue if willing to pay the difference. A little unfair to have to sit there hoping to beat the bots again!

Just my opinion but I think that given all the shortages of components etc, AIB's are going to move there production to the "upcoming" TI and newer variants of the 3080/3070. Then they can build cards with components that they will have less issues getting. Still won't help with the shortage of RAM and other key items but meh, who knows.

dream on!

 

[Ur round next]

It will be the same mess if and when a 3080 Ti comes

 

[Jarambo]

I never though buying a graphics card in November would make me want to kill myself but it's March 2021 and here we are.

 

[Monty-64]

I never though buying a graphics card in November would make me want to kill myself but it's March 2021 and here we are.

Yeah! Rodger that.

 

[Chris mcknight]

So I'm sitting in the 70's for my evga card, should I sit tight like @Gibbo suggested or should I get a refund since none of the card I ordered has been shipped since launch?

 

[Monty-64]

So I'm sitting in the 70's for my evga card, should I sit tight like @ScottiB suggested or should I get a refund since none of the card I ordered has been shipped since launch?

Personally, for where you are, I'd wait. I wish I was at 70's because I'm currently in queue position 743 and I'm going to wait. I've seen the price that cards are now going for and I'm not going to shell out another £150plus for another card.

 

[Biohills-Liam]

Personally, for where you are, I'd wait. I wish I was at 70's because I'm currently in queue position 743 and I'm going to wait. I've seen the price that cards are now going for and I'm not going to shell out another £150plus for another card.

You are a brave man