Caporegime
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Might get you a second-hand 2060S then...
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How are people getting GPU's ?
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Might get you a second-hand 2060S then...
Not if you're lucky. I got a 3070fe and would not have upgraded for more than £100.
It's a sad situation though; started mining on mine a bit ago and my card has become free. Resale on 1070 was £180 so pretty pleased.
Seriosuly though, if someone had approached me when I was considering starting mining and said if I didn't, every gamer could secure a card at RRP, I would sacrificed that potential profit.
The situation stinks.
Your missing the point, this has got nothing to do with mining. Its scalpers buying up all the stock and trying to resell at more.
Do you think the scalping market would be as big if mining wasn’t a thing?
Exactly, the card prices are now purely based on their crypto income, nothing to do with gaming.
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Indeed, £600-£700 was my limit for a new GPU, 3080 or 6800XT, Anything more and the scalpers and price gougers can sit on the inventory, No one with a working brain should pay more than MSRP.
No
, it is because of lockdowns and Covid-19 and not mining.What I know is people want cards for gaming, ( almost everyone is at home) and they are being held ransome by scaplers. Just look at other items getting scapled like the PS5, trainers ....
PS5 cost 350/450 yet it is scapled for 2 or 3 times the price (700 and more). PS5 does not mine. The new 3060 came out that could not mine out of the box still got scapled in seconds and Nvidia said it could not mine.
It is the price items can be held ransome at. Once people stop paying these stupid prices they will drop.
Good news is that with some items, people are fed up and are no longer buying them, so there are many of those scapled items not selling and the scapled prices have dropped big.
Signs that the market is very slowly recovering from these rotten scaplers.
Signs that the market is very slowly recovering from these rotten scaplers.
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What I know is people want cards for gaming, ( almost everyone is at home) and they are being held ransome by scaplers. Just look at other items getting scapled like the PS5, trainers ....
PS5 cost 350/450 yet it is scapled for 2 or 3 times the price (700 and more). PS5 does not mine. The new 3060 came out that could not mine out of the box still got scapled in seconds and Nvidia said it could not mine.
It is the price items can be held ransome at. Once people stop paying these stupid prices they will drop.
Scalping itself has become more prevalent due to people sat at home trying to think of ways to make money.
This is compounded by the fact GPUs themselves can make money after being scalped.
There are shipping and manufacturing issues too.
Fact remains that there would be more cards if miners didn't want them and people didn't think it was ok to overpay for them and make the money back through mining.
Yeah, the mining thing probably makes a lot of people go, "Oh its ok paying £3k for this 3090 as i can mine the difference back!" lowut1111111 Which oddly enough is probably then pouring more fuel on the crypto fire which in turn makes it more popular, rinse and repeat.
It'll be interesting to see what happens when one of the rugs is pulled out. (The mining rug/scalper rug/demand for GPU rug etc)
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I'd hope some of the criteria, to get MM would change? I've only put a little over 100 posts but been a member for many years but can't access MM till I bang another 850 or so posts. Unfortunately I can't put the time I'd like into the forum to gain access to better priced gpus
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Same here, I'm not the kind of person who's good with small talk and I'm increasingly having to comment on things I would never do, in the real world, in an effort to get access. Luckily I managed to snap up a 5700xt new for £350 in November but while it performs admirably I have to run a resolution scale under 80 (widely seen as the lowest to keep things from getting muddy) to get a relatively stable 60 FPS at 4k.
I am completely ignorant about this mining malarkey. Am I right that it has a finite life, a limit to it? So when it ends, there will be lots of cheap 3000 cards on the market?
Anyway, I got tired of waiting and bought a 2080Ti on Ebay. It's a great upgrade from my 2070 & by the time I get to buy a NEW card it will be the 4000 series I should think.
Anyway, I got tired of waiting and bought a 2080Ti on Ebay. It's a great upgrade from my 2070 & by the time I get to buy a NEW card it will be the 4000 series I should think.
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How much was it out of curiosity ?
So you've been a member here since June 2012, let's call it 106 months. 157 posts in that period is 1.48 posts a month.
You must be super duper seriously busy, how do you find time to eat or sleep
This forum is a valuable resource to gather info, but is also an incredible place to chat and contribute. The MM sets a realistic target of 1k posts and is there for the community, for those who actively contribute.
Since OcUK did the MM deals, there have been plenty of low post count members complaining. To those people........If you had contributed to this community over the period you've been here, then you would have had a chance to grab a card from the MM deals. Any annoyance at lack of posts should be directed right back at yourself.
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So you've been a member here since June 2012, so let's call it 106 months. 157 posts in that period is 1.48 posts a month.
You must be super duper seriously busy, how do you find time to eat or sleep
This forum is a valuable resource to gather info, but is also an incredible place to chat and contribute. The MM sets a realistic target of 1k posts and is there for the community, for those who actively contribute.
Since OcUK did the MM deals, there have been plenty of low post count members complaining. To those people........If you had contributed to this community over the period you've been here, then you would have had a chance to grab a card from the MM deals. Any annoyance at lack of posts should be directed right back at yourself.
People aren't annoyed at a their "lack of posts", they're annoyed by ironic criteria. The guy that you're taking jabs at might be the perfect recipient of a MM deal, because instead of *********** on this forum he's likely spending his time actually gaming and making good use of the card.
Your kind of mindset and the current criteria promotes low quality "contributions". Would you want your community to devolve in such a way? Thanks for your "useful" insight, +1 to your post count.
I'm all ears for your suggestions as to how to replace/improve the current system.
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KYC with an ID, limit of one card per postal address and card payments only, so the card holder's name can be verified. But that's only an "improvement" for people desperate for cards (gamers/artists/scientists), and definitely not from the business perspective for OcUK. I can't imagine them caring enough to spend resources on background checks and lists.
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The only thing really that has bugged me since I gained access to the MM in 2011'ish is people make you an offer of "I'll take at asking" and then they disappear for 24 hours, I've seen this quite literally hundreds of times, A popup window should come up when you access the MM in the middle of the screen that you cannot close for 30 seconds to make sure people read it "When making an offer to buy please do not disappear straight afterwards, Finish the transaction" or something along those lines, It's really friggin annoying.
So, completely missing the community aspect. I understand that your view is that OcUK are doing these deals so that they go in to the hands of gamers vs miners, but the community aspect is a part of it that shouldn't be overlooked.
Yes I appreciate this is irritating. I might be wrong, but I think people instinctively know this, so a notification may not do much in my view. You're free to reply to their offer in the thread, asking them when they're going to pay, telling them that until you received payment it's still open for offer from others. It's not the most pleasant of ways to do business but it's fair in my opinion if they're disappearing like that.