Days Gone

[LtMatt]

To bad the 6700Xt reference cooler doesn't allow for much then , had to undervolt and underclock mine to lower reported wattage to around the 160 mark to get the noise down to an acceptable level. Don't get me wrong though, I still like the hardware .

Have a friend using an AIB 6700 XT that overclocks to 2900Mhz on the core.

Reference models (same with my old 6900 XT MBA) will only ever have the cooling capacity for a 10% ish core overclock.

 

[Purgatory]

Anyone remember the argument that console ports games will be better on AMD cards? Well here is your proof that it isn't true. The nvidia cards are destroying the AMD cards even the 3080 is making the 6900xt look silly. So I think that argument is put to bed now. The game is great by the way and is a little slow in the start but picks up nicely and becomes much better so don't give up too early in, played it on ps4 pro and looking forward to playing the pc version.

 

[LtMatt]

Anyone remember the argument that console ports games will be better on AMD cards? Well here is your proof that it isn't true. The nvidia cards are destroying the AMD cards even the 3080 is making the 6900xt look silly. So I think that argument is put to bed now.

It's using UE4 engine, so i wouldn't get too excited and start waxing your carrot just yet.

 

[Purgatory]

It's using UE4 engine, so i wouldn't get too excited and start waxing your carrot just yet.

 

[LtMatt]

 

[Phixsator]

Have a friend using an AIB 6700 XT that overclocks to 2900Mhz on the core.

Reference models (same with my old 6900 XT MBA) will only ever have the cooling capacity for a 10% ish core overclock.

Do you think it's a silicon thing or a cooling thing. I know there is always the lottery but still makes sense to give better silicon to the partners who put on bigger cooling solutions instead of restraining good dies under a just good enough reference cooler.

 

[LtMatt]

Do you think it's a silicon thing or a cooling thing. I know there is always the lottery but still makes sense to give better silicon to the partners who put on bigger cooling solutions instead of restraining good dies under a just good enough reference cooler.

Cooling mostly, my 6900 XT MBA was held back by temperatures. Sure there will always be a difference in silicon quality but the difference is only a few % in performance.

 

[Phixsator]

Cooling mostly, my 6900 XT MBA was held back by temperatures. Sure there will always be a difference in silicon quality but the difference is only a few % in performance.

Maybe I should give my card the Mk-26 treatment I just have to sort my soundcard on my mATX board problem as onboard sound is dreadful.

 

[Gorbash12346]

Ok I clearly must have some kind of bug or something. I'm on a gtx 980 @1080p and I can't even get past the first bike chase. 5-8fps and it doesn't make any difference turned all the way down to low. I'll link a capture of it. I've tried 3 different drivers now including the latest hame ready version. What can I do to track down the issue?
It's a 6700K running 4.9ghz, 32gb 3200, and running off a Samsung 850 Pro m.2 nvme. No thermal issues at all.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Anyone remember the argument that console ports games will be better on AMD cards? Well here is your proof that it isn't true. The nvidia cards are destroying the AMD cards even the 3080 is making the 6900xt look silly. So I think that argument is put to bed now. The game is great by the way and is a little slow in the start but picks up nicely and becomes much better so don't give up too early in, played it on ps4 pro and looking forward to playing the pc version.

Of course its not true, the PC uses Nvidia.

 

[no_1_dave]

Anyone remember the argument that console ports games will be better on AMD cards? Well here is your proof that it isn't true. The nvidia cards are destroying the AMD cards even the 3080 is making the 6900xt look silly. So I think that argument is put to bed now.

That argument was put to bed a long time ago when the first PS4 ports ran better on Nvidia even though the PS4 uses AMD hardware... Just for some reason people forgot about that so decided to try and argue it again now that the PS5 is out

 

[Grim5]

That's been a case for a long time - as soon as AMD started supply APu to consoles, amd fans straight away started saying that pc games would start running better on amd because optimisation done on console would transfer to pc.

The reality is that it makes absolutely no difference because consoles have their own architecture that's very different from how PCs work and even their own API and from the developers point of view that means each platform needs its own optimisation and nothing transfers across

Even now though the new consoles are said to be closer to pc than ever before, when you look at how the sub systems in them
Work, it's still different to how PCs operate and they still use their own API




I remember one of the more outlandish claims was that amd CPU's would start demolishing Intel by default because all console games would be ground up designed for amd cpu - the reality is that those people have no idea how cpus even work because that didn't come to pass and never will, amd only passed Intel when it beat Intel in ipc which had absolutely nothing to do with console game developement

 

[nvidiamd]

We had Valhalla where AMD did fine, ok they were involved in the development. But then we had Hitman3 where AMD was not involved and it destroyed Nvidia. There were also some titles where Nvidia was involved in the PC release and AMD got destroyed. It happens.
Here we have a DX11, UE4 console title. I remember some people were saying that AMD is only good in running DX11/ console games. It looks like the same is true for Nvidia.
Honestly if it is an UE4 title then it is a miracle if AMD does well, probably Gears5 was such a game.
Epic works fine with Sony but on PC they went full Nvidia.

 

[shankly1985]

That's been a case for a long time - as soon as AMD started supply APu to consoles, amd fans straight away started saying that pc games would start running better on amd because optimisation done on console would transfer to pc.

The reality is that it makes absolutely no difference because consoles have their own architecture that's very different from how PCs work and even their own API and from the developers point of view that means each platform needs its own optimisation and nothing transfers across

Even now though the new consoles are said to be closer to pc than ever before, when you look at how the sub systems in them
Work, it's still different to how PCs operate and they still use their own API




I remember one of the more outlandish claims was that amd CPU's would start demolishing Intel by default because all console games would be ground up designed for amd cpu - the reality is that those people have no idea how cpus even work because that didn't come to pass and never will, amd only passed Intel when it beat Intel in ipc which had absolutely nothing to do with console game developement

You are getting you wires crossed. Future APIs will help developers optimise for console and PC that will help AMD on both sides.

You running away with this one title all because performance isn't quite what you would expect reason is its running DX11 an API that favours Nvidia in a massive way.

AMD is built with DX12 and Vulkan to get the most out of their CPUs and GPUs soon as a game uses OpenGL or DX11 then AMD is already on a loss. Even in very well optimised DX11 AMD titles Nvidia still do excellent.

Now lets get of the high horse and look at some recent games that use APIs that matter to AMD

https://www.techspot.com/review/2144-amd-radeon-6800-xt/

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pag..._graphics_performance_benchmark_review,6.html

 

[shankly1985]

That argument was put to bed a long time ago when the first PS4 ports ran better on Nvidia even though the PS4 uses AMD hardware... Just for some reason people forgot about that so decided to try and argue it again now that the PS5 is out

What you need to remember last gen was just building the ground work for the future. Its right now that AMDs vision of one eco system for all matter most.

Days Gone is a game that was built for the last gen and ported over to PC using the API that best suited the dev team nothing wrong with that.

I remember it wasn't long ago people in here saying DX12 or Vulkan wont take off of years but if you look back at the last year alone to the amount of titles released with DX12 alone you can see how much forward thinking the game industry as really taken this seriously.

Remember also AMD would never catch up to Nvidia GPUs I remember having this debate in here and all I said and I was right at the time all it takes is AMD to release one good GPU and they right back in the game. They have done this and more with RDNA 2 sure RT performance isn't quite matching 3000 series but AMD have released a GPU with RT matching 2000 series and beating them in performance per watt and excellent rasterization performance.

RDNA 1 to RDNA 2 AMD do not get enough credit I feel.

 

[elrasho]

If you've not played this before you're in for a treat

 

[Janer64]

I'm really loving the DF in depth breakdown of visual settings, Alex is awesome at this and has a very sharp eye for it. It's really nice to see the developers have put in the effort to give PC users some better quality settings, and high end on the PC is still king by a decent margin. If you really want that premium high end experience it has to be something like a 3080 on a PC. I might pick this up.

I love DF and yes Alex is great at that.

Referring the game, I had just started Metro Exodus for the 1st time when the enhanced version came out and yes as some one earlier said the lighting has spoilt us but I felt like I was simply playing the game rather then immersed in it.
I started Days Gone 2 days ago and I'm loving it...I'm playing on 1 difficulty higher than default...I think it's called Hard?

I originally played and loved the left for dead series and I feel this is a worthy follow up for me, I love how the mechanics are right and the head shot you're well rewarded with head shots.

What I don't like is the movement, especially forward, it seem's to be unresponsiveness in it takes a milisecond for him to move.(is their a setting to fix this? I did make the mouse more sensitive)

I'm playing on 100 FoV and everything on highest, 3080 card at 1440p and getting 144fps most times or 130s.

 

[NathG79]

If you've not played this before you're in for a treat

Downloaded eairler and put in around 30mins so far, impressed. Runs at 129-140odd (FPS) at 4k (VSR) Max 6900XT

 

[nvidiamd]

Well it has great reviews on Steam so it looks like a game without RT is not the end of the world, even in 2021. As long as it is a game and not a buggy tech demo like ...77.
I wonder what will happen if TLOU2 or Ghost of Tsushima will ever come on PC, i think that will be a blessing for PCMR.

 

[The Old School Gamer]

If you've not played this before you're in for a treat

Played it for around 6hrs and find it kinda boring tbh.
Guess I just like faster paced games where my ammo counter isn't constantly running on empty.