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Can't decide between RX 6700XT, RTX 3060 or 3060Ti

Teabreaker

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I recently built my first pc, couldn't have chosen a better time to do it. I'm rocking a Ryzen 7 3700X in an ITX case. I plan to use my pc for VR gaming. Have an oculus quest 2.

Now in the market for a graphics card but don't know which to go for and what price is decent value for each of the cards so I can consider whether there's a good deal or not.

Any advice would be much appreciated!
 
I would avoid the 3060 Price /performance is shocking. In a straight out fight between a 3060ti and a 6700XT I think it would go down to personal preference. The AMD card has larger memory (12gb v 8 for the 3060ti) but the 3060 ti has DLSS, better RTX performance and better performance in some games (as does the 6700xt in AMD favoured games). I would maybe base a choice on popular games played and the respective benchmarks.

The other consideration is IF you can get a 3060ti FE for £380, if you do get that opportunity then there is no decision to be made, just get it.
 
Great, thanks for your replies! Have a better idea what I want now. Sounds like the best choice is a 3060 Ti priced anywhere below £400.

How lucky would I have to be to find an offer like that in the current market? Seems near impossible!

Thanks again!
 
It’s do able, but you do need patience and luck on your side. I think the strategies people used are in one of the most active threads here.
 
U can get 3060ti on ebay for 1k. Sound like a bargain.

Honestly I haven't seen 3060ti in stock for last 6 months. No idea where ppl shopping.
 
Be very lucky if you have a choice of 2 at the same time.
If you need one, grab the first one you can I would have thought!
 
Yeah, I don't think I can compete against those professional scalpers with stock alert tools and bots. Im the kind of person that always gets out-bidded last second on Ebay. No chance.
 
I used FE part alert and just hit the link as the notification came through! Need to be a bit patient as the system will reject bots and double purchases and after a few mins, if lucky, you should see add to basket.
 
FE cards are the best value. Now the seller has limited buys (if you bought any FE card already, sorry your declined) you should be able to get one as it been months of people fighting already and quite a lot of people now own a card. This has put you in a stronger position than you were in last year.

Other tip is to set up one click buying, stuff like that to make every second count.
 
I've said this in another thread but PC Gaming with the Quest 2 is a little different than using a Rift or other dedicated PC gaming VR. In the Quest 2 case its basically a glorified monitor as what you are actually doing is streaming the game from your PC to the Quest 2. Its a bit like when you stream a PC game to your mobile phone you dont necessarily need a meaty GPU to get the best out of it. More importantly is how you are going to connect your Quest 2 to the PC and what software you use. If you are thinking of using it via WIFI you need a decent wifi connection for instance is as much an importance as a GPU. Things like latency etc is also as important.

So with a Quest 2 any of the GPUs you listed are fine. Whats going to possibly be a game changer is when 120hz games become more introduced and whether you can stream successfully at the hz from the PC to your Quest 2. At the moment its just at 90hz. There are loads of settings in like Virtual Desktop if going down the WIFI route you can change to improve the quality of the game on the Quest 2. Just to give you an idea with the Quest 1 a GTX 1080 was more than enough. Even a GTX 1060 gave you good results.
 
FE cards, telegram app (phone), Part Alert and then a good slice of luck.

If you can stretch to a 3070FE (469) add it to your shortlist of 3060 and 3060ti. 6700XT - I have no idea how you can get this for close to rrp.
 
PatBerry said:
FE cards, telegram app (phone), Part Alert and then a good slice of luck.

If you can stretch to a 3070FE (469) add it to your shortlist of 3060 and 3060ti. 6700XT - I have no idea how you can get this for close to rrp.
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would agree with that. people have been able to get FE cards are very very good prices recently. i'm holding out for a 3070FE one day for around £470-ish
 
Curstu said:
I would avoid the 3060 Price /performance is shocking. In a straight out fight between a 3060ti and a 6700XT I think it would go down to personal preference. The AMD card has larger memory (12gb v 8 for the 3060ti) but the 3060 ti has DLSS, better RTX performance and better performance in some games (as does the 6700xt in AMD favoured games). I would maybe base a choice on popular games played and the respective benchmarks.
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I agree at MSRP the 3060 is bad value but it seems to be marked up less than the other cards at the moment and I've seen it for near £500 excluding the MM deals whereas the 3060ti seems to be nearer £1000 and doesn't offer double the performance. I'm still watching the founders alerts but not in a hurry to get a new card.
 
6700xt

* guaranteed rdna 2 optimizations throughout the entire generation (see rdr 2, rx 580 performs near a 1070. 4 years later, you will be seeing 6700xt performing near a 3080 in many titles. i'm serious)
* %20-25 less cpu bottleneck, meaning you will always have %20-25 more cpu headroom with a RDNA gpu compared to Nvidia GPU (3700x is not a high end CPU, so you will run into bottlenecks with 3060ti/6700xt. bottlenecks will be %20-25 less severe with AMD GPU. Simple.
* better gpu performance at 1080p/1440p due to how ampere is specifically built for 4K. 6700xt already decimates the 3070 in certain games at 1080p/1440p with appopriate setitngs


if you're not going to uprade your cpu, don't get an nvidia gpu... or be prepared to drop below 50 fps in open world titles




this person is very knowledgeable around these architectures. he also predicted the CPU overhead problem on DX12 4 years before.

he also claims ampere has some weird alu/register ratio that will need NVIDIA to make special optimizations per-game to keep peak occupancy in games. this is troubling, once nvidia stops doing that, all AMPERE gpus may get DEGRADED performance (DISCLAIMER: This is my opinion. The person in the video never ever claims something like that. Its entirely my own speculation. But I heard "similar" things for Kepler, how it was a weird architecture and needed "special" code paths from Nvidia to get "good performance".)



you can listen that around 5:26

you will have none of these concerns with an RDNA GPU. Simple!

in conclusion:

if you're going to keep your gpu for more than 2-3 years, get a 6700xt...
 
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Teabreaker said:
I've just joined the FE partlist telegram alerts group. Feeling optimistic now!
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You should be. Id have my phone handy between 9 and 10 and 2 and 3 weekdays. You have to be quick i.e. hearing/feeling the alert, open up.immediately and add to basket. Dont think that youll be able to get anything outside of that timeline

Saying that, the drop thursday when i got my 3080 , the 3070 was still available after 2 or 3.minutes
 
Definitely checks out, as a vega owner and a 290x owner before that, my driver updates always gave solid performance and occasional improvements to usually beat the nvidia equivalent at the time.

Hard sell on the raytracing front. But we know RIS was way better than people realised and AMD driver control panel is far more feature packed than nvidia's. If FSR is as good as it looks like being, the only hindrance to overcome stopping you from going for an AMD card is its silly prices right now.

The 6700XT fighter OcUK sold was a stonking deal, which is why I think if Gibbo can get close to that figure on another AIB it would be a sensible choice for sure!
 
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