How much do you need for comfortable existence in retirement.

I am of the same thought... I'd reckon most people could get by on that if they owned their own house outright.
Thing is, I don't want to "get by" when I retire. I want to enjoy my life. I want to enjoy it now and continue to do so when I have more time. Christ, have more time on my hands and be limited by what I do because I haven't planned for it? No chance.

My brother is late 40s, has zero private pension (or a tiny one you'd never live off) and nothing else. "worry about it later" No thank you. I have been planning, and continue to plan to make sure I'm in the best possible position to retire and when I do, want to have more disposable income than I do now.
 
Thing is, I don't want to "get by" when I retire. I want to enjoy my life. I want to enjoy it now and continue to do so when I have more time. Christ, have more time on my hands and be limited by what I do because I haven't planned for it? No chance.

My brother is late 40s, has zero private pension (or a tiny one you'd never live off) and nothing else. "worry about it later" No thank you. I have been planning, and continue to plan to make sure I'm in the best possible position to retire and when I do, want to have more disposable income than I do now.

Absolutely this. If you can't afford a happy lifestyle at retirement, then you can't afford to retire. Although doesn't mean you have to stick to slogging a full time week. Could easily have a part time job.

I think this will hit my generation very hard when retirement age will have been bumped to 70+, and a private pension is only covering basic essentials, and any form of luxury being insanely expensive.
 
It's quite interesting to see people's perspectives on this.

I was quite happily running along, building up a large pension pot, house paid for, etc etc.

Then I got divorced and had to agree to an enhance settlement to get my business back. Now I find myself trying to cram 40 years worth of saving into 7/8 years along with a large mortgage on a 10 year term. I'm lucky I have very good cashflow but my retirement won't be quite as comfortable, nor as soon, as I had planned.
 
Anyone concerned about retirement should seriously look into , and understand what BITCOIN is, it will probably be the best performing asset class for quite a while.
 
Lol, go on....

I'm guessing he means in terms of the state picking up the bill for your nursing home requirements etc etc.

Frankly i'd rather not live a life where you're just counting down the days until the end because the only thing you can afford to do is watch TV.
 
Not sure at all.

Depends if the pension is all you have or not. I really want to get to £1m in my ISA which is going to take a few more years (to understate it) but at that point it should be able to sustain a good income. Would also hope I own whatever property I'm living in by the time the pension is ready to pay out, at which point the major expenses are done with.

I'd also really resent paying income tax on a pension, so I don't mind the idea of having a £1k pcm pension. If you've got some other things on the go (like a monster ISA) and no rent/mortgage then that will actually go quite far I'd have thought.

Plus you'd hope you have kids (grandkids maybe) around you to keep you entertained so it's not like you're out spending loads on dinners and drinks.
 
I'm in my low thirties now, and have been paying 13% of my salary (5+8% employer) for 9 years this month. My projection using the VERY conservative estimates from L&G (assume 0.28% growth post inflation of 2.5%, which is ludicrous; current performance is tracking at 6% average per year, with inflation averaging 1.6%, so growth is 4.4%) is that I will be able to get £5,000/year until death, including roughly £72,000 of tax free lump sum. Both are in today's money values. By my own calculation and assuming the same rate of growth and inflation I get about 70% higher than their estimates. Note: when I started I was on the default 'low risk' fund profile; I have in the last few years invested in riskier funds, so the rate of growth is averaging 10%. I didn't take this into account, as growing older I would move the money back into less risky funds.

Considering I'm paying more than the amount I'd be getting back I'd say their assumptions are extremely conservative.

I'm also over-paying my mortgage by about 40-80% a month (depending on other outgoing expenses) so estimate the house to be paid off in 17 years.

The target is for the two of us to have an income of circa £50k a year at least into our late 70s, with circa £30k for the rest of our lives. This is within reach, especially since we'll both increase our pension contributions in the next year, and have just started investing into funds, so will have money outside our pensions.
 
50k a year (inflation adjusted) starting at 60 to cover both me and my wife is the aim. I started late on the pension train but woke up a few years ago and starting maxing contributions as best I could, as well as having some business interests that are being converted into investable money that will be used to max out ISAs for a few years as well. My targets should be achievable in the 15 years left to me as I'm 45 now, but it does depend somewhat on how the market performs and would still be fine on less if necessary.If we overperform or my wife starts to earn some regular income, then the date may come in or we may just have a bit more spare cash.

If I could go back and tell my younger self two things, it would be never start smoking and start pension saving earlier!
 
You would have a state pension and qualify for all the extras under the sun based on the lovely way we seem to be means testing for anything.
Yep if you fail to pay your ni conttbutions you end up on pension credits with all the extra benefits,tv licence been one of many
 
You would have a state pension and qualify for all the extras under the sun based on the lovely way we seem to be means testing for anything.

Which doesn’t amount to very much and will certainly be reduced to the bare minimum over the next few decades. Additionally you currently have to work till your 67 before you can claim a state pension. That idea can take a running jump.

If a pensioner is living a good life then it’s because they’ve got additional pensions to supplement the state pension.
 
You would have a state pension and qualify for all the extras under the sun based on the lovely way we seem to be means testing for anything.
IIRC some pensioners with only a small private pension can actually be worse off than someone who only gets state pension as they don't get help with things like rent, council tax etc...
Sucks if that's correct.
 
Which doesn’t amount to very much and will certainly be reduced to the bare minimum over the next few decades. Additionally you currently have to work till your 67 before you can claim a state pension.

This is likely to become a big thing in the next few decades, it'll pretty much be a case of if you can't afford to retire then you work until you drop.
 
Anyone concerned about retirement should seriously look into , and understand what BITCOIN is, it will probably be the best performing asset class for quite a while.
Oh **** off with this nonsense. There's enough off it in the GPU subforum.

Gambling on crypto is gambling, and anyone who bets their future prosperity on Bitcoin is an idiot.

Sorry, back to the more sensible discussion :)
 
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