Yeah, that's pretty big to be honest.
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Come on man, try to be reasonable!
I said he has not threatened any existing NATO member states as of now. I'll now add specific threat to an existing NATO country, as you are referencing the vauge threat he made against any country that crosses him the other day. I'm happy to be wrong, but inre read my posts and I don't think I said he would never attack A NATO country in the future.
The if's and buts comment was your weird hypothetical regarding Finland. I can't predict what will happen in the future, but not can you
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To be fair if they're of fighting age then... That's what all our grandparents had to do in WW2 when the UK was at risk. If they're not needed then by all means best thing to do would be to get to the West of the country or hop over the border to Poland etc... if they are needed/can help then really they ought to.
It's also the thing that bugs me about refugees arriving in the UK, they're disproportionately men of fighting age who really ought to have stayed in their own countries.
Given the choice of being killed and terrible things happening to my family I would rather fight. It’s not something we can run from when it happens.Would hope in the heat of it I'd have the balls to do it. Tough decision with a family, but if you think about what our ancestors gave in previous world wars...
Yeah I do not understand this move at all. Fog of war. Untrained civilians. All of this leads to friendly fire on top of civilians getting massacred by both sides as apparently there are russian saboteurs in ukraininan military uniform.
NATO lite maybe, accompanied by some form of boiler plate todo's to bring them up to full members.
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Personally I'd rather take my chances to be with my family rather than fight despite doing military service. **** that. We need to move on as a race from this ****.
It's going to be horrific regardless, Russia needs to have as hard a time as possible in this invasion.
Most civilians are trained. They will have done national service.
Perhaps some wil begin to respect and understand the sacrifice the previous generation gave us, instead of moaning
I wonder if anyone would have broken from awarding nil point.
oh man this could get messy, they really should just surrender. nobody wants to see ordinary civillians going up against trained soldiers
Russia won’t be able to win in a guerrilla war, especially with a population against them.
https://carnegieendowment.org/2022/02/24/china-faces-irreconcilable-choices-on-ukraine-pub-86515
I think the fact that the US didn't get embroiled into Ukraine is concerning the Chinese. It means that they aren't going to be fighting both. Also inheriting sanctions from Russia isn't what they really wanted.
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So a threat to Finland and Sweden now too if they seek NATO membership.
NATO should now just fast track anyone wishing to join with a temporary membership until fully admitted
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I'm one of the first to point out issues historically and recently in the West but the stance being taken here by Russia is really unacceptable,
NATO should now just fast track anyone wishing to join with a temporary membership until fully admitted
.I'm one of the first to point out issues historically and recently in the West but the stance being taken here by Russia is really unacceptable,
Lol nice to see what this generation of made of luckily for the Ukraine they still have a sense of duty
To be honest I'm surprised that in barely over 24 hours of the conflict the Ukrainian president has asked citizens to use Molotov's and ak47 against the Russian army etc.
It's terrible what's happening but I don't think a responsible government would ask this of their citizens
Hard to say living in a country with a different system and culture and values but it seems a bit "off" to me.
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Daughter of Putin's spokesperson posted anti-war message:
Also, re: this:
Seems to be more updates on this, claims that Russian soldiers were initially told they were just going to the border for military drills:
Also, re: this:
Seems to be more updates on this, claims that Russian soldiers were initially told they were just going to the border for military drills:
Would hope in the heat of it I'd have the balls to do it. Tough decision with a family, but if you think about what our ancestors gave in previous world wars...
I'd like to think I would stay personally. Seeing my country fall into the terrible state it was a decade ago. Looking at my children having in the back of my mind I could have at least tried (assuming I fled). No shame in running. Some friends have only just got into Poland after being on the move for 2 days.
I think maybe there isn't really a big push until as many civilians as possible are out of Kyiv. Leveling Kyiv with women and children still there would mean no coming back for Putin - on any level in any arena. He'll wait until it's only those with a gun in their hand then give an ultimatum to surrender or die.
Just a different culture. Nothing sinister, just incredibly patriotic.
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