Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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^ sounds like whataboutism :p

no one will deny anything about the Russian army anyway, people out right believe Ukraine has no nazi army unit and it's just putin gone mad.
obviously only a fool would believe that's his reason to invade, but it doesn't mean what he says about the nazis isn't true.
Uther said:
More likely they've run out of petrol. I'm quite surprised they haven't been attacked yet.
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Most likely waiting for civilians to leave and so they can say they gave peace negotiations a chance, but now there is no alternative.
shelling begins, troops move in after.

do people really think they all sit without fuel for 3 days just 15miles from Kyiv?
 
Robbo said:
Sadly, Zelenskyy is getting desperate, saying they'll march on Poland next and up to the Berlin wall.

Er well, no they won't. They would be destroyed.
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He never said that, some reporters asked him when he thinks Putin will stop and he told them he didn't Putin would be satisfied until he'd pushed NATO back to Berlin. That doesn't mean he believes Putin will or even could do it.
 
GuruJockStrap said:

I know a number of videos have been posted on here already to provide context of why we're in this situation (and apologies if its already been posted) but this is a good 30 minutes watch.
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Seems like an excellent and well reasoned video to me… gives some insights as to possible motivations that I wasn’t aware of. thanks for sharing!
 
Kill_Phil said:
Yeah and this. They're throwing people in prison for 30 days for even the most basic of protesting (probably a good hiding too)
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The bit that conflicts with me is that the police are people too, they have famillies too, they have to go home and night and look themselves in the mirror. Yet each day they brutally put down protests. They must know to some extent that what they are being asked to do by the state is wrong.
 
a serious Greek military historian said today in telly : "Russia has fallen into the Thucydides trap, Russia decided to attack at a time when western powers are weak, corrupted, soft, uprooted and cowards. Russia miscalculated though and will now pay a heavy price, even using nukes russia will loose because if russia uses its nuclear arsenal and succeeds in winning all that would be left is a dead planet, including russians. he concluded that the russian chief of staff and policy makers should study Thucydides thoroughly as the west does for centuries, otherwise they are doomed to repeat the wrongs and ill doings of history"
 
physichull said:
The bit that conflicts with me is that the police are people too, they have famillies too, they have to go home and night and look themselves in the mirror. Yet each day they brutally put down protests. They must know to some extent that what they are being asked to do by the state is wrong.
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Well that happens here too on occasion tbh...
 
Uther said:
Well that happens here too on occasion tbh...
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someone should make a compilation of all the anger punches done by police on restrained protesters in England during the last 2 years, it's probably pretty long even if you don't count in the times they let dogs bite people
 
*White House: The US Has No Strategic Interest in Lowering Global Energy Supplies.
*White House: The United States Does Not Believe Russia Will Be Removed From the United Nations Security Council.
*WH Press Sec. Psaki: Limiting Russian Oil Imports Would Raise Gas Prices.
*WH Press Sec. Psaki: Biden Is to Specify More Russia Sanctions Shortly.
*WH Press Sec. Psaki: The US Is Sharing Real-time Intel With Ukraine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YLlWS8czZo

US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo: China Will Need to Responsibly Follow Export Controls on Russia
US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo: Russia Cannot Supply China With the Most Complex Semiconductors.
US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo: As Putin’s Invasion of Ukraine Continues, the US Will Continue to Stifle Russia’s Economy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQugwOX744U
 
physichull said:
The bit that conflicts with me is that the police are people too, they have famillies too, they have to go home and night and look themselves in the mirror. Yet each day they brutally put down protests. They must know to some extent that what they are being asked to do by the state is wrong.
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Exactly this, it takes many little Hitlers to be able to pull of this kind of stunt and cowards to go along with it.

Let's not kid ourselves that there aren't people who would be willing to do similar in this country among the professional soul sellers.
 
NinjaCool said:
Reddit bans links to Russian state media across the entire site.
https://www.engadget.com/reddit-restricts-russia-state-media-rt-sputnik-173155541.html
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Not sure moves this like are sensible the West are supposed to be bastions of freedom and speech, banning this just plays into the hypocritical narrative Putin and the Kremlin love to push about the West. Surely we should be able to make our own minds up what is propaganda and what is not ? Like banning racism, it doesn't actually address the issue, it just tries to hide it instead
 
Minusorange said:
Not sure moves this like are sensible the West are supposed to be bastions of freedom and speech, banning this just plays into the hypocritical narrative Putin and the Kremlin love to push about the West. Surely we should be able to make our own minds up what is propaganda and what is not ? Like banning racism, it doesn't actually address the issue, it just tries to hide it instead
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Cancel culture says hi
 
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