Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Absolutely I can take it but it doesn’t change the fact though. Honestly I’ll say it one more time I don’t care what people think of me on a personal level, how can I you don’t know me on a personal level.

I’ll say what I feel and think free of the need to fit in or be popular. People are more than ok with thinking I’m this or that, fill your boots. A few on here are crossing the line but tribalism makes it ok. It is what it is.


No one cares dude. Literally no one wants to know if your not tribal or if you know anyone or not on a personal level.

Just stick to the topic.

Yall are acting like a bunch of victims.
 
Very easy just to repeat what your told as well. Very few original thoughts in this thread.
Some people are definitely very insightful though every cloud has a silver lining :).


To me this speaks far more than just regurgitating media rhetoric. But we are all entitled to speak or think how we want too right. To be otherwise is to be more aligned with Putin. The irony.
Regurgitated opinions from gammon baby news as a response to my post. Brilliant. You realize you are doing exactly what you are accusing everyone else of?
 
Speak yes, be listened to... no.
In time of old before social media, everyone knew who the village idiot was, they were not given any credence.
This is what modern times require, independent thinking and analysis.
One country invades another, with massed forces, after saying it would not, and claims it is for peace, then many innocents die in the process.

The peace they spoke of, appears to be propping up an authoritarian unelected ruler, who wants neighbouring countries to reject democracy so his own people don't see it as a goal.
This is not peace under any analysis or critical thinking.
It doesn't matter what other nations think, the invasion is wrong, and should be put right.
 
it’s not Syrians, it’s mainly students legitimately there including female students. Don’t excuse it.

The guards don't know that for sure and it's time sensitive as well as immensely stressful not knowing whether an attack will happen, I also think it's natural for them to focus on their own women/children before anyone else even if they really ought to focus on getting foreign nationals out first.

Not saying there's isn't racism in Eastern Europe because there's plenty, but the situation is hardly ideal and tensions are high.
 
Releasing film of captured/surrendered soldiers does not, in and of itself, constitute breaking the Geneva Convention.

It breaks Article 13 of the GC, specifically - https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/ART/375-590017?OpenDocument

prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity.

This "Public Curiosity" line is what was used by both the United States and the UK when they said that Saddam's filming POW's in 2003 was against the GC - https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/03/pows-m29.html

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld" said:
“The Geneva Convention indicates that it’s not permitted to photograph and embarrass or humiliate prisoners of war.”

British Prime Minister Tony Blair said:
"Parading people in that way is contrary to the Geneva Convention, contrary to all the proper rules of conflict," he told British Forces radio.

Those are alongside the Red Cross who also said it violates the GC - https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/icrc-says-pow-images-breach-geneva-convention/3231184

"It is forbidden to expose prisoners of war to public curiosity... and the essential thing is to make clear to all parties that PoWs should not be exposed in any form,"

and the Human Rights Watch who also said it did - https://www.hrw.org/legacy/press/2003/03/iraq032403.htm

a detaining authority in wartime has a clear obligation not to parade POWs, or allow them to be exposed to the public.

and it's been widely reported in previous conflicts that filming POW's (by any side) is against the GC - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/mar/25/iraq.martinmcnamara

all parties involved in the war had defied the Geneva Convention by allowing pictures of captured prisoners to be aired on television.

Ironic that you're sharing this misinformation in such a post.

As an ex-member of the Armed Forces for 22 years who did yearly Geneva Convention briefs, which stated what you can & can not do with POW's, I'm happy with my understanding of the GC. I'm guessing your understanding from the GC briefs you attended (either as a member of the Armed Forces, Civil Servant or maybe as a Lawyer etc) may lead you think otherwise?
 
Out of everything going on over there why is this the only thing you are focused on?

I’m not, it was a single post, and it’s something worth mentioning as there seems to be a pattern. These peoples experiences deserve to be heard.

If you see my post history in this thread there has just been a single post on this issue and every other has been staunchly supporting Ukraine.
 
It breaks Article 13 of the GC, specifically - https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/ART/375-590017?OpenDocument



This "Public Curiosity" line is what was used by both the United States and the UK when they said that Saddam's filming POW's in 2003 was against the GC - https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/03/pows-m29.html





Those are alongside the Red Cross who also said it violates the GC - https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/icrc-says-pow-images-breach-geneva-convention/3231184



and the Human Rights Watch who also said it did - https://www.hrw.org/legacy/press/2003/03/iraq032403.htm



and it's been widely reported in previous conflicts that filming POW's (by any side) is against the GC - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/mar/25/iraq.martinmcnamara





As an ex-member of the Armed Forces for 22 years who did yearly Geneva Convention briefs, which stated what you can & can not do with POW's, I'm happy with my understanding of the GC. I'm guessing your understanding from the GC briefs you attended (either as a member of the Armed Forces, Civil Servant or maybe as a Lawyer etc) may lead you think otherwise?

Only videos I’ve seen are Russian soldiers being treated well by Ukrainians and don’t look like POWs to me.

Also, who actually cares if Russians invaders are being photographed? It’s such a silly thing to be worried about and is a complete distraction. Put pictures of them all up, shame them. In the same way anyone who breaks the law should be treated.
 
No one cares dude. Literally no one wants to know if your not tribal or if you know anyone or not on a personal level.

Just stick to the topic.

Yall are acting like a bunch of victims.
Can't agree more :D Just reading his posts makes me laugh. This must be a way how to sway people your way, to get liked and bla bla bla. Seems like i'll have first two of them on my ignore list.
 
it’s not Syrians, it’s mainly students legitimately there including female students. Don’t excuse it.

And they know that how? You can tell every person coming in via the channel is not legitimate?

- Anyway this boring tedious trip down the Racism route isn't really meant for this thread, so I'll not be posting about this anymore... Moving on!
 
It breaks Article 13 of the GC, specifically - https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/ART/375-590017?OpenDocument



This "Public Curiosity" line is what was used by both the United States and the UK when they said that Saddam's filming POW's in 2003 was against the GC - https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/03/pows-m29.html





Those are alongside the Red Cross who also said it violates the GC - https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/icrc-says-pow-images-breach-geneva-convention/3231184



and the Human Rights Watch who also said it did - https://www.hrw.org/legacy/press/2003/03/iraq032403.htm



and it's been widely reported in previous conflicts that filming POW's (by any side) is against the GC - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/mar/25/iraq.martinmcnamara





As an ex-member of the Armed Forces for 22 years who did yearly Geneva Convention briefs, which stated what you can & can not do with POW's, I'm happy with my understanding of the GC. I'm guessing your understanding from the GC briefs you attended (either as a member of the Armed Forces, Civil Servant or maybe as a Lawyer etc) may lead you think otherwise?
The Russians aren't calling it a war though, it's a 'special military operation' so they're not PoWs. They're probably lucky the Ukranians aren't labelling them terrorists...
 
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