AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail - Go Go Go xD

[Vulture]

RPL will be awesome , even ADL consumes too much, and RPL will have even higher clocks + 8 additional cores, and all of that on the same node so it is expected. Zen 4 will be much more efficient, especially 3dcache versions that doesn't need high clocks to have better performance.

 

[humbug]

RPL will be awesome , even ADL consumes too much, and RPL will have even higher clocks + 8 additional cores, and all of that on the same node so it is expected. Zen 4 will be much more efficient, especially 3dcache versions that doesn't need high clocks to have better performance.

That's ####### insane, you know what that is, that's ramming silly volts in to it to get 6Ghz because they realised Zen 4 has a higher IPC and clocks much higher than Zen 3, they don't think they can win without going full crazy mode.

400 watts, WTF??????????????

 

[Bencher]

That's ####### insane, you know what that is, that's ramming silly volts in to it to get 6Ghz because they realised Zen 4 has a higher IPC and clocks much higher than Zen 3 and they don't think they can win without going full crazy mode.

So you think the 13900k out of the box will consume 420w running valorant? Really? Wanna bet on that?

Its the same crap every single intel generation. The 10900k was supposed to consumed 400w as well. The 12900k supposedly needed a custom watercool. Yet here i am with a small single tower cooler,lol.

Come on amd fans, you can do better

 

[humbug]

So you think the 13900k out of the box will consume 420w running valorant? Really? Wanna bet on that?

Its the same crap every single intel generation. The 10900k was supposed to consumed 400w as well. The 12900k supposedly needed a custom watercool. Yet here i am with a small single tower cooler,lol.

Come on amd fans, you can do better

It wouldn't surprise me too much, its what we have come to expect from Intel these days, if they think they can win by 3 FPS on the bar charts they will make it pull a thousand watts.

 

[Bencher]

It wouldn't surprise me too much, its what we have come to expect from Intel these days, if they think they can win by 3 FPS on the bar charts they will make it pull a thousand watts.

Youve come to expect from intel to consume 420watts in gaming? Come on now... All intel cpus (besides rocket lake, those were absolute crap) are more power efficient in gaming than every single amd cpu bar the 3d. I mean 12900k was up to 50% more efficient than the 5950x.

So what someone expects from an intel cpu is to be extremely efficient for gaming. They suck at mt workloads of course, but valorant isnt that.

 

[uscool]

Where are you getting this 50% more efficient from ? Pretty sure 5950x is decent at multi core workloads while using less power ?

Isn't it the multi core workloads is when intel sucks power ?

 

[humbug]

Well it depends, if the GPU is doing most of the work with the CPU sitting idle sure they aren't bad, but if you make the CPU work for it they do pull a lot more power, too much power.

 

[humbug]

Where are you getting this 50% more efficient from ? Pretty sure 5950x is decent at multi core workloads while using less power ?

Isn't it the multi core workloads is when intel sucks power ?

Cherry picked slides.

 

[humbug]

look at the 12700K vs the 12900KS, 90 watts vs 190 watts, i bet the 12900K is not a lot more than the 12700K but the KS is clocked to the point where the power spikes hard for almost no gain, yet for those 3 FPS Intel pushed the KS deep in to that territory, 2X the power for that couple of %.

Would they push the 13900K even harder to get another 10 FPS? its got to be faster than the 12900KS right?

AMD CPU's do the same when you push them that far, the power balloons out of control.

 

[Bencher]

Where are you getting this 50% more efficient from ? Pretty sure 5950x is decent at multi core workloads while using less power ?

Isn't it the multi core workloads is when intel sucks power ?

Was talking about gaming, the 12900k is up to 50% more efficient than the 5950x. Derbauer and igorslab ran a bunch of tests specifically for gaming efficiency and showed the above results

 

[Bencher]

Cherry picked slides.

Do you have any non cherrypicked ones? Cause all the data I've seen regarding gaming efficiency the 12900k scorches the 5950x.

 

[uscool]

On release I wouldnt have bought the 5950x for gaming

 

[Bencher]

look at the 12700K vs the 12900KS, 90 watts vs 190 watts, i bet the 12900K is not a lot more than the 12700K but the KS is clocked to the point where the power spikes hard for almost no gain, yet for those 3 FPS Intel pushed the KS deep in to that territory, 2X the power for that couple of %.

Would they push the 13900K even harder to get another 10 FPS? its got to be faster than the 12900KS right?

AMD CPU's do the same when you push them that far, the power balloons out of control.

And yet, funny thing is, even with the ks consuming a truckload, im pretty sure in gaming efficiency its not far off from the 5950x

 

[uscool]

And yet, funny thing is, even with the ks consuming a truckload, im pretty sure in gaming efficiency its not far off from the 5950x

then you can point at the 58003dx if want to talk about gaming efficiency ? , looking forward what zen4 brings and what intel has at the time, instead of comparing to something that was released in 2020

 

[humbug]

then you can point at the 58003dx if want to talk about gaming efficiency ? , looking forward what zen4 brings and what intel has at the time, instead of comparing to something that was released in 2020

Please don't he will post only what agrees with him ignoring everything else, make you waste your time engaging you in a slide war.

He keeps folders full of them, you will have to go on a google marathon, he already did that.

 

[Bencher]

then you can point at the 58003dx if want to talk about gaming efficiency ? , looking forward what zen4 brings and what intel has at the time, instead of comparing to something that was released in 2020

Didnt i already admit that the 3d is more efficient in gaming? Its a completely different product though, and when it gets to anything MT its less efficient even than the joke of a cpu that is the 12900ks.

As a general rule intel makes very efficient gaming cpus and amd makes very efficient MT cpus. The 3d is an exception on both fronts, its efficient at gaming but pretty mediocre in MT

The 3d is a great cpu for a pc - console replacement, the pricing though is just absolutely bonkers.

And that's the reason i dislike amd nowadays. They could have released a 5900x 3d at 500 euros and absolutely demolish everything intel has, but nope, lets milk a bit

 

[Bencher]

Please don't he will post only what agrees with him ignoring everything else, make you waste your time engaging you in a slide war.

He keeps folders full of them, you will have to go on a google marathon, he already did that.

Im sorry im backing up my claims with evidence. I guess i should follow your method, make false claims and then when asked for evidence dissapear.

Im still waiting for that 8 core zen 3 cbr23 run that will show that zen 3 is more efficient than golden cove. You made the claim, and then dissapeared cause you know its absolutely false and zen 3 gets annihilated by golden cove in every metric there is

 

[uscool]

Didnt i already admit that the 3d is more efficient in gaming? Its a completely different product though, and when it gets to anything MT its less efficient even than the joke of a cpu that is the 12900ks.

As a general rule intel makes very efficient gaming cpus and amd makes very efficient MT cpus. The 3d is an exception on both fronts, its efficient at gaming but pretty mediocre in MT

The 3d is a great cpu for a pc - console replacement, the pricing though is just absolutely bonkers.

And that's the reason i dislike amd nowadays. They could have released a 5900x 3d at 500 euros and absolutely demolish everything intel has, but nope, lets milk a bit

neither company are not immune to it they are business after all , I recall intel refusing to go past 4 cores untill AMD started releasing more cores ,
5900x 3d wouldnt have gained anything for gaming and reduce multi core with lower clocks

we dont know how advanced they are with 3d cache, they had to reduce the clock speed and also it increased temps its basically prototype on older cpu without any IPC - clock increases . No doubt 3d cache with higher clock speeds / more cores will come in the future

 

[humbug]

Im sorry im backing up my claims with evidence. I guess i should follow your method, make false claims and then when asked for evidence dissapear.

Im still waiting for that 8 core zen 3 cbr23 run that will show that zen 3 is more efficient than golden cove. You made the claim, and then dissapeared cause you know its absolutely false and zen 3 gets annihilated by golden cove in every metric there is

I did, you're off topic, again for this thread.

 

[Bencher]

I did, you're off topic, again for this thread.

You did what? 65w = 16200 score for 8 gc cores. How much does a 5800x or a 5800x 3d (to make it on topic) gets?? Im pretty sure they need twice the power to get that score, making them ridiculously inefficient. Yet you claimed they are more efficient than gc cores