Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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kitch9 said:
Tactical nukes have to be transported usually via specialised truck or train. If the trucks even fire up at this point NATO know all the locations. Once they see them move Putin will get a phone call to say they will be taken out if they move further.

Putns only option will be strategic nukes at which point generals looking at losing everything and having to watch their families burn with pop a cap in his demented head.

Russia must be full of wests spooks at this point.
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This is what's going to happen.

 
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XeNoN89 said:
Look, Putin isn't going to use Nukes on anyone and even if he did the rest of the world wouldn't let it draw them in and destroy everyone and everything. IF in the extremely mega unlikely scenario that Putin has gone absolutely insane and did it then I would expect USA and maybe others to take out Russian military bases and equipment everywhere without resorting to nukes themselves and dooming us all
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The Russians think East Germany belongs to Russia. That's the mentally the west is up against.
 
adidan said:
That's assuming he had full control and that if he pressed that button anything would actually happen.

I'm not convinced all around him nor China would be as willing to instigate the obliteration of the entire planet.
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Indeed. What does anyone who isn't mentally ill and wants to survive have to gain from a nuclear war? China are not stupid, and likely won't stand for it either. They know full well a war with the US and Europe is a no win situation.
 
413x said:
Starting to wonder about nuclear war more and more.

Like said above. Doesn't seem like the west will let him win. But also doesn't seem like he is willing to lose.

But he is losing. Having to draft up to send meat in to the grinder, openly talking about nuclear war. Knowing the west have to respond if he uses nukes.

Its a scary time.


Let's say he went full on crazy. And used a small nuke. Would he use it in Ukraine if he wants to take it?
What would the west's reaction be? They'd have to do something. But how would it NOT end up in world wide destruction?
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Putin shows many signs of megalomania and the Russian leadership in general act more like a mafia or cartel - he is highly unlikely to engage in, or attempt to engage in, something which might take away his power and wealth as a larger scale use of nuclear weapons would unless his back was to the wall.

I do think he feels that the West isn't taking him or his threats and bluster seriously or listening to what he says and will eventually try to demonstrate his nuclear capabilities in some fashion in an attempt to both show the West he is serious and as intimidation - as the thinking of those kind of people tends to be. Which could be anything from another large scale nuclear test of the likes of the Tsar Bomba through to the battlefield use of nuclear weapons but I suspect that tactical nuke use would only come in the form of escalation to de-escalate should his position be threatened or possibly as a **** you to deny Ukraine Crimea should it look like it is being overrun.

I do think if the UK and France didn't have nuclear weapons due to the impact we have had he would be much more inclined to gamble on lobbing a nuke at London, Brussels or Berlin etc. as intimidation banking on the US not escalating to nuclear weapons on the behalf of countries so remote to itself irrespective of NATO - something which concerns me quite a bit as there seems to be a growing short sighted desire to get rid of our nuclear weapons. I do think there is a moderate chance he might engage in some kind of demonstrative use, indirect but close enough to be uncomfortable as intimidation, yet against European countries.
 
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StriderX said:
There's a video on reddit showing what appears to be a few rather rotten and rusty AK's being cleaned... I thought Russia had a huge stockpile?
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Likely a lot of it hasn't been stored well. But there is a theme with this war of rinsing the stuff which was going to waste first - people read far to much desperation into it (not to say there isn't a factor of that).
 
StriderX said:
There's a video on reddit showing what appears to be a few rather rotten and rusty AK's being cleaned... I thought Russia had a huge stockpile?
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The Americans have a big stockpile of old war equipment that they store in dry deserts, it doesn't rust. The Russians don't have that, they live in a climate that's covered in snow half the year and is a humid swamp the other half and the Russians looking for cost savings store all their old stuff outside in the open, that means everything is rusty
 
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StriderX said:
There's a video on reddit showing what appears to be a few rather rotten and rusty AK's being cleaned... I thought Russia had a huge stockpile?
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You've seen the state of their vehicles, do you think anyone has been looking after stockpiles of AK's for the last 30 years...
 
Rroff said:
Likely a lot of it hasn't been stored well. But there is a theme with this war of rinsing the stuff which was going to waste first - people read far to much desperation into it (not to say there isn't a factor of that).
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I am not sure here, but it seems that using a rusty ak is potentially quite dangerous for the operator?

There has to be a point where the thing you are firing is more likely to kill you than the enemy.
 
Grim5 said:
She can go soon not to worry, the company that makes bodybags in Russia today announced that if Putin requests more , they are prepared and ready to produce 25 million body bags
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Russian instructor: Be sure to write your name on your army issue sleeping bag and keep it with you at all times. You will need it.

Conscript: Funny looking sleeping bag...
 
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Grim5 said:
The Americans have a big stockpile of old war equipment that they store in dry deserts, it doesn't rust. The Russians don't have that, they live in a climate that's covered in snow half the year and is a humid swamp the other half and the Russians looking for cost savings store all their old stuff outside in the open, that means everything is rusty
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That's completely inaccurate. Russia has deserts, as do Russia's allied countries.
 
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Dis86 said:
That's completely inaccurate. Russia has deserts, as do Russia's allied countries.
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Not according to this they don't https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Russia

They have some small semi arid regions but which still experience rainfall and for geographical regions they don't have their deep storage military there - they keep their stuff in Siberia and in the Far east where it's very humid
 
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