When are the "B" boards for Ryzen 7000 available?

Saw a review for MSI Carbon WIFI B650 and thought oh that sounds good, saw price was £370, not great but ok. However, I then saw that there are cheaper X670 boards than that. The pricing is a total mess.
For impatient people like me though it just means I end up paying more, I have gone round the houses multiple times, and I am simply not prepared (building from nothing) to pay for the dead AM4 or Intel1700 platforms. I am 'justifying' it because I don't intend to upgrade until AM6 or whatever is out and only if I need to and my only other choice is not build a pc at all (or the classic wait until x is out)
 
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I'm allergic to Asrock, never ever had one mind, just have some opinions on them I have formulated from zero personal experience lol.
 
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It was common knowledge that if you went AM4 you could keep the mb for years and just drop in a newer CPU thus saving money but with AM5 motherboard makers seem to have cottoned on that if you're only going to buy one board and keep it for 5 years or so that they are going to sell less boards so to make sure they don't lose out they are now charging double the price so you don't really save anything anymore.
 
It was common knowledge that if you went AM4 you could keep the mb for years and just drop in a newer CPU thus saving money but with AM5 motherboard makers seem to have cottoned on that if you're only going to buy one board and keep it for 5 years or so that they are going to sell less boards so to make sure they don't lose out they are now charging double the price so you don't really save anything anymore.
But the same can be said for the Z790 boards like the Aorus master is £620 and the Xtreme £860 for Intel and for AMD they are £530 & £780? Yet people don't seem to be as up in arms about Intel version of the same boards?
 
But the same can be said for the Z790 boards like the Aorus master is £620 and the Xtreme £860 for Intel and for AMD they are £530 & £780? Yet people don't seem to be as up in arms about Intel version of the same boards?
You can pick up boards that will support RPL for under £100 though while the low end Z790 seem to start around the same price as low end B650.
 
You can pick up boards that will support RPL for under £100 though while the low end Z790 seem to start around the same price as low end B650.

The low end under £100 boards for RPL don't support all the same features though at all do they? Most if not all that I have seen don't even allow you to overclock and they are DDR4 platforms at least if you looking at the latest generation of mobo and not going for a previous gen old stock course. What is the lower end DDR5 supporting mobos? They all seem to be within £20-£30 for a similar spec. Not to mention stock for the B660 series was purchased prior (generally) to the crash of the £.

It all swings and roundabouts. Plus considering the difference in the £ to $. You are going from $1.33 to $1.10 as of now and as low as $1.05 when stock was brought by companies. A $200 board last gen was £180 then and now would be £230 just because of that difference in the exchange rate.

If you look at sites that have sold through their stock you can see the B660 prices rising. It isn't quite as extreme and clear cut. To note we also haven't actually got B760 boards from Intel side to even compare but I would expect they are going to come out much similar to B650.
 
You can pick up boards that will support RPL for under £100 though while the low end Z790 seem to start around the same price as low end B650.

If you don’t want the PCIE 5 or DDR 5 feature set sure. RPL is still a dead socket.

And sure you still save money, to RPL you’ll be buying new board and CPU in 5 years or less. AM5 just the CPU….
 
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At the moment the low end Asrock lightning x670 is looking like the “best” buy. The B series are just too close to the same price
Yeah seen this too. Still not willing to pay that for a motherboard ever.

Folks seem to be waving off the price spiral of PC goods for a few years now, I just laugh from a distance.

I'll keep my money in my bank and vote with my action which is "No".

Currently going to assume we'll see price drops when intel launches raptor.
 
Yeah seen this too. Still not willing to pay that for a motherboard ever.

Folks seem to be waving off the price spiral of PC goods for a few years now, I just laugh from a distance.

I'll keep my money in my bank and vote with my action which is "No".

Currently going to assume we'll see price drops when intel launches raptor.
In fairness I have done this too. My above sort of reply for example is more that both CPU companies are mental to be getting to a point where their mobos are this expensive. I paid £120 for a pretty feature rich B550m board that supports the 5950x just fine and has 3 M.2 slots. I just don't see the value in all the bells and whistles and screens etc.
 
In fairness I have done this too. My above sort of reply for example is more that both CPU companies are mental to be getting to a point where their mobos are this expensive. I paid £120 for a pretty feature rich B550m board that supports the 5950x just fine and has 3 M.2 slots. I just don't see the value in all the bells and whistles and screens etc.
Yeah now all boards are enthusiast pricing whereas you used to get 80% in lower and the odd 20% that were expensive/geared towards "overclockers".

If folks think the price of a motherboard has gone up 3x... It hasn't. Copper is up only like 11% on 2018, shipping is now back down to 4k a container.

Once I can get a zen 4 mobo for 200-250 with features I want I'll buy, but not being forced to by the market
 
The advice has been to wait for the Asrock boards to come into stock… which aside from some minor online shops seem to be taking an age for mainstream retailers.
Can’t say the prices look much better.

No it looks really bad. Looking at £850 for a new 7700K CPU/MOBO/RAM and that's with the cheapest 4800 DDR5...

Might have to go back to trying to flash my B450 BIOS and go 5700x.
 
If you don’t want the PCIE 5 or DDR 5 feature set sure. RPL is still a dead socket.

And sure you still save money, to RPL you’ll be buying new board and CPU in 5 years or less. AM5 just the CPU….
Why do you need pcie gen 5.0 or DDR5?, pcie gen 4.0 and ddr4 still works perfectly fine?

You'll need a new board in 5 years time if you buy AM5 as AM5 is only slated to run till 2025 which is just 3 years from now.
 
Why do you need pcie gen 5.0 or DDR5?, pcie gen 4.0 and ddr4 still works perfectly fine?

You'll need a new board in 5 years time if you buy AM5 as AM5 is only slated to run till 2025 which is just 3 years from now.


Gen 5 m.2 drives soon to be released and depending what you do can be big improvement also direct storage not sure yet how much difference it will be between gen4 and gen5 drives

Spiderman shows good gains with ddr5 and pretty sure more games will also start too

Wouldn't wanna be stuck with ddr4 or no option for gen5 drives for next 2-3 years
 
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