Kwasi Kwarteng has been sacked..

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Come up with a solution that stops the decline of the UK. Open the doors let everyone in and watch the collapse. it is very funny that people with similar views like to dictate and complain, yet they never have real solutions.
You use those words which are derogatory, I don't use derogatory words to negate views, that does not work with me.
Be careful what you wish for, history has shown us it comes back to bit.
Are you suggesting that those from EEA countries contribute more than those from non-EEA countries, isn't that judgmental and racist?
First we'd have to agree that the UK has declined, we don't and even if we did the solution would be to stop voting for self serving politicians that sell people the lie that if it wasn't for that person your life would be so much better, stop voting for politicians that keep trying to pit us against each other.

No one said open the doors and let everyone in. Most people except you with your extremist zero immigration/asylum seeker (we've still not established what group you're actually referring to) ideology are split when it comes the amount of people we let in. If you want solutions may i suggest you read the illegal immigration thread in SC where I've provided the solution many, many, times and would be a much more suitable thread for this discussion (that is unless you've been banned from SC).

You're more than welcome to point of what i said that you consider derogatory, what i said that hurt your feelings. Sure you may not have used derogatory terms towards me but you literally advocated for the killing of asylum seekers when you said we should be pushing the boats back out to sea and deporting asylum seekers who are not legally entitled to work in small boats if they're here for more than a year (even though because of the ineptitude of our own government there's a backlog of five years worth of court cases), when you said they should be starved and/or frozen to death as you want them to have no recourse to public funds. Whether you're condemning them to death on the streets, the seas, or camps you're still purposefully taking an action that you know will ultimately lead to their deaths, if you can't see the similarities between how the Nazis treated certain people and how you want them treated then i suggest you look again, i suggest you stop looking at certain people as sub human.

IDK what you mean by careful what you wish for. For one thing i don't believe in or make wishes, I'm not a child, and even if i did i suspect what you think i would wish for is very different than what i would actually wish for. Secondly and if I'm correct in my assumption, we're literally a nation of immigrants so suggesting it would come back to bite us is frankly absurd and shows an almost naive level of ignorance. Although with your comment about EEA and non-EEA countries being judgmental and racist I'm starting to suspect it maybe something else, maybe you should look up what the EEA and rest of the world is because last time i checked they're not races and even if they were I've made no judgment on whether we should or shouldn't treat either group any differently, unlike you with your push them back out to sea, deport them in the boats they arrived on, rip children from their parents 'solution'.
 
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First we'd have to agree that the UK has declined, we don't and even if we did the solution would be to stop voting for self serving politicians that sell people the lie that if it wasn't for that person your life would be so much better, stop voting for politicians that keep trying to pit us against each other.

No one said open the doors and let everyone in. Most people except you with your extremist zero immigration/asylum seeker (we've still not established what group you're actually referring to) ideology are split when it comes the amount of people we let in. If you want solutions may i suggest you read the illegal immigration thread in SC where I've provided the solution many, many, times and would be a much more suitable thread for this discussion (that is unless you've been banned from SC).

You're more than welcome to point of what i said that you consider derogatory, what i said that hurt your feelings. Sure you may not have used derogatory terms towards me but you literally advocated for the killing of asylum seekers when you said we should be pushing the boats back out to sea and deporting asylum seekers who are not legally entitled to work in small boats if they're here for more than a year (even though because of the ineptitude of our own government there's a backlog of five years worth of court cases), when you said they should be starved and/or frozen to death as you want them to have no recourse to public funds. Whether you're condemning them to death on the streets, the seas, or camps you're still purposefully taking an action that you know will ultimately lead to their deaths, if you can't see the similarities between how the Nazis treated certain people and how you want them treated then i suggest you look again, i suggest you stop looking at certain people as sub human.

IDK what you mean by careful what you wish for. For one thing i don't believe in or make wishes, I'm not a child, and even if i did i suspect what you think i would wish for is very different than what i would actually wish for. Secondly and if I'm correct in my assumption, we're literally a nation of immigrants so suggesting it would come back to bite us is frankly absurd and shows an almost naive level of ignorance. Although with your comment about EEA and non-EEA countries being judgmental and racist I'm starting to suspect it maybe something else, maybe you should look up what the EEA and rest of the world is because last time i checked they're not races and even if they were I've made no judgment on whether we should or shouldn't treat either group any differently, unlike you with your push them back out to sea, deport them in the boats they arrived on, rip children from their parents 'solution'.
We should rejoin the EU
 
Like what?
They can't deregulate for example, removing the rights and protections that people have. They have to have the standards that the EU have. They can't gamble with the economy, because fiscal policy has to be within the EU's rules.

But I don't think we'll rejoin. People won't want to give up the pound (too subservient to the upper class/royalty). We'll eventually join the single market and become a rule taker, and it will be good for us.
 
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First we'd have to agree that the UK has declined, we don't and even if we did the solution would be to stop voting for self serving politicians that sell people the lie that if it wasn't for that person your life would be so much better, stop voting for politicians that keep trying to pit us against each other.

No one said open the doors and let everyone in. Most people except you with your extremist zero immigration/asylum seeker (we've still not established what group you're actually referring to) ideology are split when it comes the amount of people we let in. If you want solutions may i suggest you read the illegal immigration thread in SC where I've provided the solution many, many, times and would be a much more suitable thread for this discussion (that is unless you've been banned from SC).

You're more than welcome to point of what i said that you consider derogatory, what i said that hurt your feelings. Sure you may not have used derogatory terms towards me but you literally advocated for the killing of asylum seekers when you said we should be pushing the boats back out to sea and deporting asylum seekers who are not legally entitled to work in small boats if they're here for more than a year (even though because of the ineptitude of our own government there's a backlog of five years worth of court cases), when you said they should be starved and/or frozen to death as you want them to have no recourse to public funds. Whether you're condemning them to death on the streets, the seas, or camps you're still purposefully taking an action that you know will ultimately lead to their deaths, if you can't see the similarities between how the Nazis treated certain people and how you want them treated then i suggest you look again, i suggest you stop looking at certain people as sub human.

IDK what you mean by careful what you wish for. For one thing i don't believe in or make wishes, I'm not a child, and even if i did i suspect what you think i would wish for is very different than what i would actually wish for. Secondly and if I'm correct in my assumption, we're literally a nation of immigrants so suggesting it would come back to bite us is frankly absurd and shows an almost naive level of ignorance. Although with your comment about EEA and non-EEA countries being judgmental and racist I'm starting to suspect it maybe something else, maybe you should look up what the EEA and rest of the world is because last time i checked they're not races and even if they were I've made no judgment on whether we should or shouldn't treat either group any differently, unlike you with your push them back out to sea, deport them in the boats they arrived on, rip children from their parents 'solution'.
First you need to understand Dispersion measures. Then you might understand why this is the best solution.

Questions. You have only enough resources to help one person. Do you help your sister or your neighbour?

Next part do you help your neighbour or someone in a different town? Simple question that has a logical response.

Do you confront or run away from a situation?

Boolean logic is our state of being no matter how you look at life.

Running away causes more problems in the long run at both points.

sometimes you need to be harsh to save life. If a country keeps accepting people then more will come, this ultimately ends up being a problem for all, and hiding, not fixing the original problems.

You think most western countries arrived at our current state blood and trauma free?

People in our country died they confronted the situation to give us what we have now. People like yourself are putting that in jeopardy. Look at uk current problems a complete reflection of a country breaking down heading backwards to self rather than community.

You want to see the complete destruction of what our forefathers have build keep thinking your way. Eventually your children’s children’s will suffer.

As I have pointed out 99 % of people think about now they don’t think about what could happen 5 10 years later.

They don’t care about the implications of There acts or how it may impact the future,

The collapse of our system can be blamed on people like yourselves.

You say I want to kill them, no I do not, your tactics are killing them and killing people from this country.

By allowing them to cross the channel you are putting them in danger, by accepting them you are putting more lives in danger. By accepting them you will signal that we accept, and more will continue to come putting more lives at risk.

You and your ideas are killing them and destroying what we have, pushing us back to the feudal era. You are not fixing the problem but transferring into our population.

If you want change then unfortunately they will need to make change in their own country, be it by bloody revolution to change their own course.

Running away will never solve the problem, if they don’t fight then why should we accept them.
 
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Being slightly dyslexic i also edit my posts multiple times for spelling/grammer. Editing a post doesn't mean very much
Most people edit their posts to tidy them up, however like i said Mrwong edited his post to remove some rather odious (IMO) suggestions, like i said we can always ask a mod to revert the edit, if Mrwong has nothing to hide, has the courage, and agrees to it that is.
First you need to understand Dispersion measures. Then you might understand why this is the best solution.

Questions. You have only enough resources to help one person. Do you help your sister or your neighbour?

Next part do you help your neighbour or someone in a different town? Simple question that has a logical response.

Do you confront or run away from a situation?

Boolean logic is our state of being no matter how you look at life.

Running away causes more problems in the long run a both points.

sometimes you need to be harsh to save life. If a country keeps accepting people then more will come, this ultimately ends up being a problem for all, and hiding, not fixing the original problems.

You think most western countries arrived at our current state blood and trauma free?

People in our country died they confronted the situation to give us what we have now. People like yourself are putting that in jeopardy. Look at uk current problems a complete reflection of a country breaking down heading backwards to self rather than community.

You want to see the complete destruction of what our forefathers have build keep thinking your way. Eventually your children’s children’s will suffer.

As I have pointed out 99 % of people think about now they don’t think about what could happen 5 10 years later.

They don’t care about the implications of There acts or how it may impact the future,

The collapse of our system can be blamed on people like yourselves.

You say I want to kill them, no I do not, your tactics are killing them and killing people from this country.

By allowing them to cross the channel you are putting them in danger, by accepting them you are putting more lives in danger. By accepting them you will signal that we accept, and more will continue to come putting more lives at risk.

You and your ideas are killing them and destroying what we have, pushing us back to the feudal era. You are not fixing the problem but transferring into our population.

If you want change then unfortunately they will need to make change in their own country, be it by bloody revolution to change their own course.

Running away will never solve the problem, if they don’t fight then why should we accept them.
What are you talking about, dispersion measures and from what i can make out 18 lines of gish gallop that as I've already said should be take to the illegal immigration thread in SC.

So what do you say Mrwong, do you agree that a mod should undo your edits to that post?
 
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Is anyone here saying the current trend of well over 1000 unvetted migrants a day, known to be being assisted ashore in Dover is sustainable and good for the UK? God knows how many more are landing without being counted.

How long can such arrivals be assimilated for? At what cost?
 
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