Pc sim set up

Adam0132

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Hi new to sim racing I recently purchased a Logitech g920 wheel pedals and shifter along with a eBay hydro. I went entry level as wasn’t sure how I would get on with it or if the novelty would quickly wear off but sure enough I’m still putting in the hours.

I’m looking to upgrade my setup the Logitech is fine but it feels notchy in places and being entry level not the greatest of quality. Iv read direct drive is the best but is obviously the most expensive I was just wondering what everyone else’s experience was like with their set ups and if direct drive really is a must.

Also iv seen you can buy wheel bases without the wheel is it possible to use my upgraded aftermarket wheel from my g920 on other bases with an adaptor or do you have to use the brand specific wheel?

I’m a pc player playing asseto mainly

Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
DD isn't a must, it's just highly recommended. If you can, definitely do.
The same applies to a decent set of loadcell pedals, though many would rightly argue that they're even more important.

What's your current seating arrangement?

You won't be able to use your aftermarket Logitech wheel unless it's standalone USB and you'd need some kind of adaptor to fit it to the bolt pattern/QR .
You don't have to use brand specific rims with these wheelbases. As above, any USB rim with the appropriate QR will work.
 
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Uncle Petey said:
DD isn't a must, it's just highly recommended. If you can, definitely do.
The same applies to a decent set of loadcell pedals, though many would rightly argue that they're even more important.

What's your current seating arrangement?

You won't be able to use your aftermarket Logitech wheel unless it's standalone USB and you'd need some kind of adaptor to fit it to the bolt pattern/QR .
You don't have to use brand specific rims with these wheelbases. As above, any USB rim with the appropriate QR will work.
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Yes iv been looking at the moza r9 and the fanatec csl dd but I read that you need the £200 hub adapter for the fanatec if you want to use an aftermarket wheel and still have the ffb. The only concern with the moza is the limited ports on the back for accessories pedals etc.

Current seating arrangement is just a gaming chair at my computer desk not ideal but I’m working with limited space and can’t really afford to lose the desk completely for a rig until we move mid next year.

Is there any other brands you recommend at a similar price for DD setup?

Ideally I would like to upgrade the wheel base for now still using the Logitech pedals and shifter to spread the cost a little (moving house is so expensive ) iv read this may be possible with adaptor wires but as I said the moza r9 which is currently looking the best option for me has limited ports and not sure if this would be possible.
 
Adam0132 said:
Yes iv been looking at the moza r9 and the fanatec csl dd but I read that you need the £200 hub adapter for the fanatec if you want to use an aftermarket wheel and still have the ffb. The only concern with the moza is the limited ports on the back for accessories pedals etc.

Current seating arrangement is just a gaming chair at my computer desk not ideal but I’m working with limited space and can’t really afford to lose the desk completely for a rig until we move mid next year.

Is there any other brands you recommend at a similar price for DD setup?

Ideally I would like to upgrade the wheel base for now still using the Logitech pedals and shifter to spread the cost a little (moving house is so expensive ) iv read this may be possible with adaptor wires but as I said the moza r9 which is currently looking the best option for me has limited ports and not sure if this would be possible.
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I'd go with the R9 over the CSL DD at that price point.
I appreciate it's tidier to plug peripherals into the wheelbase, but is plugging them into the PC an issue in your setup?

You'll want these adaptors to continue using your pedals/shifter as standalone USB devices
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Pedals Adapter for Logitech G25, G27, G29, G920, G923 : Leo Bodnar Electronics

Leo Bodnar Electronics Pedals Adapter for Logitech G25, G27, G29, G920, G923 - Turn your Logitech G923, G920, G29, G27 or G25 pedals into a stand alone USB device. Increase resolution for greater precision. Reduce response time to 4 milliseconds. 10-bit resolution on all pedal axes Highly...
www.leobodnar.com www.leobodnar.com

Shifter Adapter for Logitech G25, G27, G29, G920 : Leo Bodnar Electronics

Leo Bodnar Electronics Shifter Adapter for Logitech G25, G27, G29, G920 - Turn your G25, G27, G29, G920 or G923 Driving Force Shifter into a standalone USB device. All shifter buttons function as expected. Gear position sensors can be calibrated in our easy to use software. Completele solution...
www.leobodnar.com www.leobodnar.com
 
Uncle Petey said:
I'd go with the R9 over the CSL DD at that price point.
I appreciate it's tidier to plug peripherals into the wheelbase, but is plugging them into the PC an issue in your setup?

You'll want these adaptors to continue using your pedals/shifter as standalone USB devices
.

Pedals Adapter for Logitech G25, G27, G29, G920, G923 : Leo Bodnar Electronics

Leo Bodnar Electronics Pedals Adapter for Logitech G25, G27, G29, G920, G923 - Turn your Logitech G923, G920, G29, G27 or G25 pedals into a stand alone USB device. Increase resolution for greater precision. Reduce response time to 4 milliseconds. 10-bit resolution on all pedal axes Highly...
www.leobodnar.com www.leobodnar.com

Shifter Adapter for Logitech G25, G27, G29, G920 : Leo Bodnar Electronics

Leo Bodnar Electronics Shifter Adapter for Logitech G25, G27, G29, G920 - Turn your G25, G27, G29, G920 or G923 Driving Force Shifter into a standalone USB device. All shifter buttons function as expected. Gear position sensors can be calibrated in our easy to use software. Completele solution...
www.leobodnar.com www.leobodnar.com
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No plugging them directly to the pc is not a problem, thanks a lot for the links and for your advice!

Just out of interest what is your current set up?
 
Adam0132 said:
No plugging them directly to the pc is not a problem, thanks a lot for the links and for your advice!

Just out of interest what is your current set up?
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No probs :)
I'm using a Simagic Alpha Mini / DC2 pedals and my own DIY wheels.
While I do have a Simlabs GT1 Evo simrig, I haven't got around to sorting my sim space and am still ghettoing it with a wheelstand pro and an Ikea chair with a box wedged between chair and sofa to stop me being pushed back :o:cry:
 
I started with a G920 (most long term sim racers did :p), moved to a Fanatec CSL DD after a year and have now just ordered a Moza R9 and Moza FSR wheel.

My son also has a Thrustmaster T300 RS GT which uses a belt, instead of a motor & gear like the G920.
Belt driven systems sit between the low end motor systems and top end direct drive, they are less notchy /grindy and generally have more torque over motor/gear systems. Costing a bit less than DD kit too.

The big advantage of a DD wheel base is there is nothing connected to the shaft, and therefore no friction. They also generate a lot more torque resistance so feel more realistic.
The other advantage of a DD system is the choice of steering wheels available, so you choose and add wheels to suit specific games - e.g. rallying, Formula, GT, oval, drift…

I tend to find the more money you spend, the more something quite small becomes annoying.
The standard quick release system on Fanatec kit is the biggest weakness of the system. It’s clunky and has some issues with movement between the wheel and the base, hence why I’ve switched to Moza, which is widely regarded as the best QR system.

The biggest upgrade you can do to improve speed and consistency is buying a pedal system with a load cell brake. These use pedal pressure to generate braking, rather than pedal position. It’s easier to remember how much pressure to apply, than a specific position, which means you will be faster and more consistent over more laps.
To use a load cell brake you will need a cockpit or somewhere to securely mount your chair and pedals.
 
SDK^ said:
I started with a G920 (most long term sim racers did :p), moved to a Fanatec CSL DD after a year and have now just ordered a Moza R9 and Moza FSR wheel.

My son also has a Thrustmaster T300 RS GT which uses a belt, instead of a motor & gear like the G920.
Belt driven systems sit between the low end motor systems and top end direct drive, they are less notchy /grindy and generally have more torque over motor/gear systems. Costing a bit less than DD kit too.

The big advantage of a DD wheel base is there is nothing connected to the shaft, and therefore no friction. They also generate a lot more torque resistance so feel more realistic.
The other advantage of a DD system is the choice of steering wheels available, so you choose and add wheels to suit specific games - e.g. rallying, Formula, GT, oval, drift…

I tend to find the more money you spend, the more something quite small becomes annoying.
The standard quick release system on Fanatec kit is the biggest weakness of the system. It’s clunky and has some issues with movement between the wheel and the base, hence why I’ve switched to Moza, which is widely regarded as the best QR system.

The biggest upgrade you can do to improve speed and consistency is buying a pedal system with a load cell brake. These use pedal pressure to generate braking, rather than pedal position. It’s easier to remember how much pressure to apply, than a specific position, which means you will be faster and more consistent over more laps.
To use a load cell brake you will need a cockpit or somewhere to securely mount your chair and pedals.
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Yes I think going for the DD option probably the moza r9 is going to be worth it to save upgrading again in the future.

When I have the space for a proper set up I will upgrade pedals etc.

Just looking now seems the r9 is sold out everywhere :( I think I can still order direct but risk paying the import fees and it getting lost/damaged along the way.
 
Adam0132 said:
Just looking now seems the r9 is sold out everywhere :( I think I can still order direct but risk paying the import fees and it getting lost/damaged along the way.
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I ’pre-ordered‘ an R9 yesterday, hoping it will be a few weeks wait and not months.
Was going to order direct too, but the likely import duty and the £192 postage put me off. Even the free Halloween cap gift wouldn’t swing it :cry:

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