I always feel thr load for cooking etc is possibly lower because a lot of families get together and est as a larger group meaning there likely 2-3 different households together and around 1 TV instead of spread about the house doing own thing etc generally.
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it was just a trial the other day , as linked xmas day is not a peak, earlier discussions.
National grid don't seem to have specified criteria when blackouts might occur, whether it woulds be desire to keep a reserve of gas for heating as opposed to electric generation, or whether with maximum output they might not be able to meet demand (if wind is off and interconnectors disabled)
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It's the other way around - Xmas Day electricity demand is normally low
Is the 25th busier or quieter than usual when it comes to electricity use?
Christmas Day is actually a time when electricity use is at one of its lowest points of the year. The cause for this fall in demand during Christmas is simple … over the festive period, schools, offices, shops and factories tend to be closedChristmas Day is usually one of the lowest demand days of the year, as shops, factories, schools, offices and many pubs are all closed.
Peak demand for Christmas Day 2019 was 33.3GW. This compared to a 2019 high of 46GW in November. Demand has been reducing each year due to the ever-growing efficiency of appliances.
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I have a power cut most years and its usually the week following christmas day it happens here.
Octopus still calculating 4th day after saving session.
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Indeed slow to calculate this time. Provably get sorted Monday tbh.
As pet above the national grid power usage is lower than average. Sounds like yours is a local grid issue though if it consistent. Rural location possibly.
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Someone mentioned if you got a particularly affluent area and they all get electric cars, all commute come home and plug it in during rush hour then it'll cause that localised problem because its such a consistent high draw thing. Some will do a schedule and load balancing so I think that applies in general there wont be a problem if they can see the shortfall coming and apparently they can predict most days.
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Yes. Amazingly they might be incentivised to plug in later or even better simple let the EVSE manage the target charge needed and charge when best…. Just like I have been since 2020.
Sadly it seems the only way to save money is to spend money on upgrades. I work in the sector and it's a nightmare at the minute. If you have money, you can save. Install PV Solar, heat pumps, smart cylinder (my area). But lets be honest that's for the few not the many.
Yeah there was an interesting development in Wales a few years ago which had like 226 homes built with solar and ground source heat pumps. Per house it cost the developer an extra £20k at construction but compared to retrofit it's about half what it would cost otherwise.
Honestly proper ground source heatpumps, solar, battery storage and thermal storage.
Honestly proper ground source heatpumps, solar, battery storage and thermal storage.
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Realistically for a small to mid sized home I dont even think ground source heat pumps are needed in the UK. solar and a small battery would lower that cost massively more and as long as the house was properly build with good insulation I doubt it would need that much energy to heat it.
larger homes may need it but then 20k on a 4 or 5 bed house is almost negligible.
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The ones installed with underfloor heating provided all the heating all year round free. Thet went 170m deep. Of course ground conditions need to allow for depth but at that point they are impressive and provide consistently. And the install cost at site stage is so much less than retrofit.
But you have top spend a large amount to save a small amount (relatively) per year. We had quotes foes for around 16000 for air source heat pump for our house and we use around 2000 oil per year. Now add on the extra cost of the electricity to run the ashp and we are looking at many years to just break even. Quotes for solar panels were coming in at around 18000. So, solar and ashp add up to 34000 pounds installed. That is a lot of electricity and oil.
Indeed this is why builders should do it at construction you'd get ground source heat pump, so much better than air source and solar with battery for similar to what just the air source quote was. Its mental that they just aren't mandated as standard tbh.
100%. you need to be in the house you are going to stay in to reap the benefits. solar has gone through the roof in price recently too, because of demand and raw material cost. The future seems to be (don't quote me on this, it's just me theory) an air source heat pump with smart cylinder paired with Solar PV and battery. But like you said, big outlay for small gains over a long period of time.
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Fuel prices locally, yesterday, Saturday. How are these comparing nationally? I want to store some diesel... Thanks.
North eastFuel prices locally, yesterday, Saturday. How are these comparing nationally? I want to store some diesel... Thanks.
cheapest unleaded 149.9
Diesel 175.9
That's Costco though. Another 4 p or so elsewhere.
183.7 for diesel near me still.Fuel prices locally, yesterday, Saturday. How are these comparing nationally? I want to store some diesel... Thanks.
i have it on full and its telling me 4p an hour, but it gets warm and stays warm for quite a while, i have a plasma tv and that costs a lot more
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