EV salary sacrifice

theone8181 said:
Why are the etrons so cheap then, that seems similar to something like a corsa. I'd also be impressed if you could get 3 hours at motorway speed in one, I'd be worried about mine and that's got 250 miles range at 90, although I guess it depends what you class as motorway speed ;) .
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They were cheap in 2020, now not so much. I'm not sure why. Maybe a combination of government grant, wrong future price prediction and whatnot. I know today they are much more expensive......my new car I have on order is an MG4 and that's another £100 a month :(
 
The e-tron price is definitely wrong. Probably not updated.

When you put the quote through, they will email you back with the real figures which is another reason these lease are cons.
 
TheOracle said:
They were cheap in 2020, now not so much. I'm not sure why. Maybe a combination of government grant, wrong future price prediction and whatnot.
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it's like the mythcal type R pcp rates manufacturer had a surplus of high end/halo production they needed to sell and push through as future profitable second hand stock,
musk/tesla is now renown for planning for 2nd hand market, where americans can no longer buy back at the end of their lease amd mass sales to hire car companies -
(well everyone had a plan until they get hit)

octopus lease seem to be now buying into byd so getting cars at preferential rates, for mutual benefit and uk market penetration,
the discounts lease companies could achieve versus individual private purchase seem like unfair market controlling behaviour.
 
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theone8181 said:
Why are the etrons so cheap then, that seems similar to something like a corsa. I'd also be impressed if you could get 3 hours at motorway speed in one, I'd be worried about mine and that's got 250 miles range at 90, although I guess it depends what you class as motorway speed ;) .
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Three things.
  1. I didn't say 3 hours, I said almost which could mean 2hrs 45 minutes or so. Most people after that length of driving are going to need a break (wether they admit it or not)
  2. Motorways don't exist in a bubble and typically with traffic and roadworks along with the normal getting on and getting off, you end up with an average speed of about 60mph.
  3. I had an E-Tron 50 for 2 years and did a fair share of long distance summer motorway driving and would typically get about 2hrs 30 minutes to almost 3 hours of driving before the car needed a charge.
If you are the UK and doing 90 on the motorway then you are frankly a moron and it is nothing to get smug and cocky about.
 
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If I was about to go into the higher band tax bracket and got a car on salary sacrifice, would this keep me from going into this bracket or would it not affect my gross salary?
 
If you earn over £50k and have children, for every £1k you earn over the 50, your child benefit drops by 10%, so let's say you earn £55k your CHB drops 50%
Salary sacrifice can bump that back up again.

That's one example at least.
 
I'm thinking of bringing in a salary sacrifice scheme in to my work, are they all much the same? Any advantages / disadvantages of any of the companies from an employer perspective?

Sadly won't help me as I do 25k a year :(
 
ICDP said:
Three things.
  1. I didn't say 3 hours, I said almost which could mean 2hrs 45 minutes or so. Most people after that length of driving are going to need a break (wether they admit it or not)
  2. Motorways don't exist in a bubble and typically with traffic and roadworks along with the normal getting on and getting off, you end up with an average speed of about 60mph.
  3. I had an E-Tron 50 for 2 years and did a fair share of long distance summer motorway driving and would typically get about 2hrs 30 minutes to almost 3 hours of driving before the car needed a charge.
If you are the UK and doing 90 on the motorway then you are frankly a moron and it is nothing to get smug and cocky about.
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I actually meant 90% charge lol. I tend to equate motorway driving to 50 normally, as I was playing devil's advocate as high speeds are the range killers (as well as the cold).
 
TheOracle said:
If you earn over £50k and have children, for every £1k you earn over the 50, your child benefit drops by 10%, so let's say you earn £55k your CHB drops 50%
Salary sacrifice can bump that back up again.

That's one example at least.
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I believe it can also drop your student loan contributions, so potentially an even bigger saving there.
 
Simon said:
Was gonna say. No EV is doing 250miles range at 90mph You would need a 125kwh battery at least
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Intermingle, just did a quick Google and some website said they averaged 282w/mile at 79 in a Model 3 performance. As that's what I get in that model when I'm driving around town and commuting I'm not sure I believe it.
 
theone8181 said:
Intermingle, just did a quick Google and some website said they averaged 282w/mile at 79 in a Model 3 performance. As that's what I get in that model when I'm driving around town and commuting I'm not sure I believe it.
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Lol, yeah it's a minefield getting accurate data on EV range. The truth is the differences are down to so many factors, that all these "range tests" can be both wrong and right simultaneously.

I have an I-Pace and frequently get 250 miles of winter range according to the GoM doing my commutes. The same journeys in Summer and the GoM tells me almost 286 miles. The fact it is slow moving traffic on mostly motorway, where speeds average under 30mph is the most likely reason. Take it on a motorway and I will be lucky to get about 200 miles with 10 miles buffer in the usual heavy rain with headwind UK weather.

So when someone asks me the range I get, I ask them what type of driving do you do and how do you drive.
 
ICDP said:
So when someone asks me the range I get, I ask them what type of driving do you do and how do you drive.
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Absolutely. When I had my ZE40 I've done 120 miles with 10 miles left on the GoM, I've also done 150 miles with 30 left on the GoM. Same motorway trip, except once was in December, and once was on a sunny day in August, when the motorway had 50mph limits for huge stretches.

I've also barely hit 100 miles in July in mixed driving with strong winds, driving rain and a roofbox and surfboard strapped to the roof.
 
ICDP said:
... If you are the UK and doing 90 on the motorway then you are frankly a moron and it is nothing to get smug and cocky about.
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?? Cruising at 90 is a perfectly normal thing to do on many motorways in the UK at non-peak times. L3 -average- speeds on the more remote bits of M40 & M4 past 9pm are probably nudging near that.
Not sure why wanting to get places quicker makes anybody a moron.
 
Tom_ed1987 said:
?? Cruising at 90 is a perfectly normal thing to do on many motorways in the UK at non-peak times. L3 -average- speeds on the more remote bits of M40 & M4 past 9pm are probably nudging near that.
Not sure why wanting to get places quicker makes anybody a moron.
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I won't say how fast I was going up the M6 past Carlisle at 11pm when I picked up my 428i from Ipswich. A truck every couple of miles and nothing else for minutes at a time.
 
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