Atlas OS: Windows without the clutter

JollyJamma · 14 Apr 2023 at 21:57

If my pc wasn’t broken right now (RIP 3080 FE), I’d have installed this OS this weekend to play around with it

Atlas is a modified version of Windows 10, which removes nearly all the drawbacks of Windows that negatively affect gaming performance. We are also a good option to reduce system latency, network latency, input lag, and keeping your system private while focusing on performance. You can learn more about Atlas on our official website

https://atlasos.net/

https://github.com/Atlas-OS/Atlas

ED209 · 15 Apr 2023 at 10:09

Like spector and tiny 11 you never know what they have done to the os that you are un aware of.

Could test on a virtual machine with no Internet access first

Murphy · 15 Apr 2023 at 11:49

To be fair this one does have a GitHub repository so you can look through what it does.

I've only had a quick skim through it due to lack of time but it seems to be doing pretty standard stuff, some stuff i would disable, some stuff i wouldn't and could cause problem if you don't know it set a particular policy and wanted to use something it's disabled. But that's what you get typically get when you depend on others to 'tweak' your OS for you.

e: For example i wouldn't get rid of Windows defender, most of what i does is overkill IMO but i still keep the Realtime monitoring enabled and it couldn't be easier to disable the stuff you don't want. Powershell Get-MpPreference will list all the settings and Set-MpPreference can be used to enable/disable them.

JollyJamma · 15 Apr 2023 at 14:50

To be fair this one does have a GitHub repository so you can look through what it does.

Yeah it’s fully open source so it’s safer than a lot of other apps.

AthlonXP1800 · 15 Apr 2023 at 22:34

I dont know Atlas OS has GitHub repository.

I was read posts in Atlas OS forum months ago found lots of apps and games did not worked with Atlas OS. I decided it not worthy bothered to tested it so I tested Tiny11 instead.

I found Tiny11 has GitHub repository.

GitHub - ntdevlabs/tiny11builder: Scripts to build a trimmed-down Windows 11 image.

Scripts to build a trimmed-down Windows 11 image. Contribute to ntdevlabs/tiny11builder development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

Murphy · 16 Apr 2023 at 15:42

I think that maybe different than tiny11, the repository is called tiny11builder and they say "This is a script to automate the build of a streamlined Windows 11 image, similar to tiny11."

AthlonXP1800 · 19 Apr 2023 at 23:27

Murphy said:
I think that maybe different than tiny11, the repository is called tiny11builder and they say "This is a script to automate the build of a streamlined Windows 11 image, similar to tiny11."

I clicked on profile, the developer is NTDEV.

ntdevlabs - Overview

Hi there, it's NTDEV! ntdevlabs has 5 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

github.com

NTDEV is the same person who developed Tiny11 and Tiny11builder. Interesting I now found he is from Romania.

I checked his twitter, on 15 February he released the first Tiny11 version for ARM64 CPUs and on 15 April he released first Live11 version to boot Windows 11 4GB live image run from USB or DVD, it worked with MBR and future update will add UEFI support. Great for emergency disk to recover data from failed boot or to run portable apps.

Live11 is very interesting, download it and test now.

Murphy · 20 Apr 2023 at 07:16

Not sure you read what i wrote properly, i said nothing about who the developers are.

Ice Tea · 25 Apr 2023 at 08:49

SpellowHouse · 25 Apr 2023 at 09:20

This is very interesting

AthlonXP1800 · 26 Apr 2023 at 13:10

Linus said Windows Update did not worked on Atlas OS so Windows Update worked fine on both Tiny11 and Ghost Spectre Windows 11 I tested.

MrRockliffe · 26 Apr 2023 at 13:11

AthlonXP1800 said:
Did you watched the video in OP first post?

That is the same video OP posted in first post.

Linus said Windows Update did not worked on Atlas OS so Windows Update worked fine on both Tiny11 and Ghost Spectre Windows 11 I tested.

Don’t believe OP had that video in the post originally

loftie · 26 Apr 2023 at 13:54

Spectre/Meltdown mitigations disabled is a bit meh

JollyJamma · 26 Apr 2023 at 16:36

MrRockliffe said:
Don’t believe OP had that video in the post originally

I added the video to the original post to make it easier for people to see it and not have to trawl through the whole thread

Murphy · 27 Apr 2023 at 07:42

loftie said:
Spectre/Meltdown mitigations disabled is a bit meh

Personally I'd be more worried about Windows update and Defender being disabled, Ryzen is less susceptible and I'm not in the habit of running sketchy software.

I get the appeal of modifying Windows to disable/remove a lot of the guff and for people who are short on time i even get the appeal of using a version of Windows that someone else has modified, having said that i still think you're better off modifying it yourself as at least then you know what's been removed/disabled and can decide for yourself if you personally want/need something.

loftie · 27 Apr 2023 at 16:16

Updates I feel depends on the frequency of the Atlas updates tbh, defender could just be replaced, but both valid points.

Rroff · 27 Apr 2023 at 19:54

Murphy said:
Personally I'd be more worried about Windows update and Defender being disabled, Ryzen is less susceptible and I'm not in the habit of running sketchy software.

I get the appeal of modifying Windows to disable/remove a lot of the guff and for people who are short on time i even get the appeal of using a version of Windows that someone else has modified, having said that i still think you're better off modifying it yourself as at least then you know what's been removed/disabled and can decide for yourself if you personally want/need something.

Defender being disabled is a big no for me - though lately MS seem to be bent on making that useless as well - it keeps identifying perfectly harmless code I've created myself as malware and sometimes even straight up deleting it without trace (I assume a bug). Another reason I keep my main desktop on Windows 7 because the OS doesn't interfere with what I'm doing or at least not without giving you options.

Windows update though their approach needs to die a death, sadly I see that approach starting to become more common as well such as the update to the Google Play Protect which executively removes app permissions without any options to control it... far too many programmers/developers lacking broad experience/vision and need to pull their heads out their arse.

darael · 27 Apr 2023 at 20:46

Ice Tea said:

That video makes my i5-7500 sad, as their machine has an i5-7400.

Though Windows 10 performs fine on my machine and I'm not sure I experience as much "chugging" as he does.

Rroff · 27 Apr 2023 at 20:53

darael said:
That video makes my i5-7500 sad, as their machine has an i5-7400.

Though Windows 10 performs fine on my machine and I'm not sure I experience as much "chugging" as he does.

Windows 10 can be kind of weird like that - I pulled an old laptop out the other day for a server type task I needed which has an 4 core/8 thread Sandy Bridge era CPU, upgraded the main OS HDD to an SSD and stuck 32GB of RAM in there (not really the point but still) and Windows 10 so far has been fairly non-intrusive, actually performs better than the previous Windows 7 installation on there (though 110% needs WUB to be useful

). Actually less "chugging", etc. than I see on my 10870H w/ 32GB and fast NVME laptop with Windows 10.

My dads Ryzen 2600 desktop generally runs pretty smoothly with 10 as well.

On the other hand there are plenty of systems I have 10 on where it literally drives you to wanting to take a hammer to it...

darael · 27 Apr 2023 at 21:01

Rroff said:
Windows 10 can be kind of weird like that - I pulled an old laptop out the other day for a server type task I needed which has an 4 core/8 thread Sandy Bridge era CPU, upgraded the main OS HDD to an SSD and stuck 32GB of RAM in there (not really the point but still) and Windows 10 so far has been fairly non-intrusive, actually performs better than the previous Windows 7 installation on there (though 110% needs WUB to be useful ). Actually less "chugging", etc. than I see on my 10870H w/ 32GB and fast NVME laptop with Windows 10.

My dads Ryzen 2600 desktop generally runs pretty smoothly with 10 as well.

On the other hand there are plenty of systems I have 10 on where it literally drives you to wanting to take a hammer to it...

Right now I prefer Windows 10 to Window 11. The new Windows Explorer looks fugly, the new Settings feels less efficient and looks more complicated than 10, file associations are a nightmare, the horrible right click menus.

Though, as Microsoft confirms 22H2 is the final Windows 10 version, I realise that I'm on borrowed time and should probably try to adopt. The biggies for me are Windows Explorer and Settings though.