Thoughts on Excessive Speed

floatindolphin said:
It's funny when you see the folk in SUVs dodging small puddles....
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SexyGreyFox said:
It's even funnier when you see them doing 2mph over a speed bump.
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SUVs might have suspension with softer/longer travel than on lower cars, I'm not convinced it's any more durable. And small puddles can easily hide deep potholes.
We have one and while it's very useful for light off-road work, I still wouldn't go smashing it over speed bumps. I don't like replacing suspension bits :/
 
panthro said:
I was connected on LinkedIn with a chap who owned a large leasing company. Recently his family posted saying he'd passed away with his son in a car crash. I was obviously shocked and wanted to find out what happened so had a quick look and found out he was driving a Bentayga and hit a concrete pillar on the A50......unfortunately Google also included photos from a pretty grim subReddit where some sick individual (who's been arrested for it) took pictures of the crash, which had photos of this poor man and his son dead in the car. The car was smashed to pieces so I imagine they must have been carrying a fair amount of speed, but I guess when you hit an immovable object it's only going to go one way. Anyway, these images feel like they're literally burnt into my corneas now.
Now I can't stop thinking about it and how dangerous driving can be, it's making me really evaluate whether or not I need a fast car and should I ever drive over the limit! FWIW I very rarely drive over 80mph these days especially with children in the car and after copping a 7 day ban for speeding in a 30 8 years ago I've become much more conscientious.
Anyone else ever have these thoughts? Do you really need a fast car if you're not driving on a track? My car isn't even "that" fast (C43 AMG) and I was until recently planning to change it for something a bit faster. I'm totally off the idea now.
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Very sad this yes. Simon and Harry RIP. Both very nice chaps. Hopefully they'll get to the bottom of what happened as I believe there's a lot more to this story. too early to speculate as to the reason for both the speed and circumstances around the crash.

This is why I welcome more autonomous capabilities within cars. Not saying they work for every road - and to maintain the most safety you'd need a dedicated set of lanes or lane cordoned off from manual driving. Having a number of autonomous lanes *could* see long motorway journeys become free flowing and almost train carriage-like. It's often quite chaotic on our roads...expecially come a 5:30pm Friday...
 
Most of my driving is done in the night anyway when I'm visiting places out of town, so it's easy enough to drive to the conditions :p

Also down here we have technical & winding back roads that are really good fun to drive fast, they are NSL so you can have some good fun on a quiet day, which I do often.
 
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MaxOverdrive said:
Very sad this yes. Simon and Harry RIP. Both very nice chaps. Hopefully they'll get to the bottom of what happened as I believe there's a lot more to this story. too early to speculate as to the reason for both the speed and circumstances around the crash.
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The subreddit the photos are posted on (disgustingly I might add, who ever shares that kind of thing for zero reason other than to try and impress others is a cretin) go into some speculative detail and point out the road is a gradual left bend and you can see where he’s hit it.

If they were running from someone that might explain it? But it’s far more likely too fast for the conditions and he’s clipped it and then fully lost it at that speed.
 
Greebo said:
In tyre tests even the best tyre with brand new tread starts aquaplaning at 56mph. part worn with 3.5mm tread and that drops to 46mph.
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I was impressed with the Bridgestone Turanza t005 on my pickup and other vehicles - but especially on the pickup even in the worst wet conditions imaginable never budged an inch. I've got Avon ZX7s on the Qashqai temporarily and despite being "A" rated for wet grip they are meh in the rain - I definitely don't have much confidence in them - I'm still on the fence as to keeping it so not rushing to put better tyres on it.

Conscript said:
SUVs might have suspension with softer/longer travel than on lower cars, I'm not convinced it's any more durable. And small puddles can easily hide deep potholes.
We have one and while it's very useful for light off-road work, I still wouldn't go smashing it over speed bumps. I don't like replacing suspension bits :/
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In my experience it is much of a muchness - your average mainstream SUV won't hold up any better than a normal car. Even more rugged vehicles won't thank you for smashing over speed bumps.
 
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saw this and thought of this thread..
regardless of your view of the speed, or the drivers competence.... I struggle to believe that even if it had been Lewis Hamilton he would have been able to control a blowout at 160mph

a minor miracle no fatalities.

www.bbc.co.uk

M1: Driver speeding at 160mph before collision sentenced

Mizan Uddin put one of his passengers in hospital for a week due to "mindless showing off".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

hand on heart I like speed as much as the next petrol head. I am glad tbh my new performance car ,.whilst.lighning 0-60 only has a top speed of... 125 I think. still fast enough to lose my licence for sure but hopefully not fast enough (on a motorway) to get me banged up
 
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bigmike20vt said:
saw this and thought of this thread..
regardless of your view of the speed, or the drivers competence.... I struggle to believe that even if it had been Lewis Hamilton he would have been able to control a blowout at 160mph

a minor miracle no fatalities.

www.bbc.co.uk

M1: Driver speeding at 160mph before collision sentenced

Mizan Uddin put one of his passengers in hospital for a week due to "mindless showing off".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

hand on heart I like speed as much as the next petrol head. I am glad tbh my new performance car ,.whilst.lighning 0-60 only has a top speed of... 125 I think. still fast enough to lose my licence for sure but hopefully not fast enough (on a motorway) to get me banged up
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I call BS on that story. Several of the experts in this thread have already stated that a blowout at 160 mph is a non-event :p
 
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I've 'tonned' every car I've had so far. Except my current one, I just don't feel the need to at all and it's comfortably the fastest of all my previous cars too. I think I'm getting old. The idea of doing even 120MPH or more in the UK, on public roads seems abhorrent. There's no knowing what will happen when you could have a 60MPH closure speed that no one is expecting. A brief glimpse in the mirror and someone sees you're 200 yards behind and moves out to overtake a truck and before they've even moved fully into the lane you're on them with a second or less to respond? No thanks. I'll stick to the speed limit.
 
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I think I've maxed out every car I've had except this one I think, not sure whether finally growing up or just too expensive to crash :D :o
blow out is pretty much a non event on the rear as long as you are not mid bend.
had one on the M6. Wasn't during some full bore attempt though but wasn't hanging about either. remould let go completely, felt some vibration, thought that doesn't feel right, lifted off while I debated what it was then bang flap flap flap flap. :eek::eek::eek:
ok better pull over... complete non event, although my wing, mudguard and arch extensions were brutalised
 
Fuzz said:
I think I've maxed out every car I've had except this one I think, not sure whether finally growing up or just too expensive to crash :D :o
blow out is pretty much a non event on the rear as long as you are not mid bend.
had one on the M6. Wasn't during some full bore attempt though but wasn't hanging about either. remould let go completely, felt some vibration, thought that doesn't feel right, lifted off while I debated what it was then bang flap flap flap flap. :eek::eek::eek:
ok better pull over... complete non event, although my wing, mudguard and arch extensions were brutalised
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Are you sure that you didn't crash into a ball of flames and die like most experts in this thread think would happen?
 
ChrisD. said:
Are you sure that you didn't crash into a ball of flames and die like most experts in this thread think would happen?
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I had a blowout too as mentioned earlier in thread and it wasn't too scary (my wheel coming off after not being put on properly was much worse).

but your logic that sometimes it's not a problem if you have a blowout therefore it's never a problem would be the same logic as running across a motorway blindfold and not being hit therefore it's safe to do it all the time.
the link above the guy was travelling at speed and had a blow out. no one died but that sounds like luck not good judgement.
I don't think anyone has said that a blowout automatically means a massive accident, just that it is possible and if going three figures it's significantly more likely to be brown trousers if it happens

(and I am not being judgy about speed.... I admit I don't always stick to the limit, I see the speed limit as a guide not a rule (not quite what the highway code says ;) )
 
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bigmike20vt said:
saw this and thought of this thread..
regardless of your view of the speed, or the drivers competence.... I struggle to believe that even if it had been Lewis Hamilton he would have been able to control a blowout at 160mph

a minor miracle no fatalities.

www.bbc.co.uk

M1: Driver speeding at 160mph before collision sentenced

Mizan Uddin put one of his passengers in hospital for a week due to "mindless showing off".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

hand on heart I like speed as much as the next petrol head. I am glad tbh my new performance car ,.whilst.lighning 0-60 only has a top speed of... 125 I think. still fast enough to lose my licence for sure but hopefully not fast enough (on a motorway) to get me banged up
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Pathetic sentence tbh.
 
MaxOverdrive said:
Very sad this yes. Simon and Harry RIP. Both very nice chaps. Hopefully they'll get to the bottom of what happened as I believe there's a lot more to this story. too early to speculate as to the reason for both the speed and circumstances around the crash.

This is why I welcome more autonomous capabilities within cars. Not saying they work for every road - and to maintain the most safety you'd need a dedicated set of lanes or lane cordoned off from manual driving. Having a number of autonomous lanes *could* see long motorway journeys become free flowing and almost train carriage-like. It's often quite chaotic on our roads...expecially come a 5:30pm Friday...
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Ah yes both very nice chaps aside from the lads dad murdered him.
 
Fuzz said:
I think I've maxed out every car I've had except this one I think, not sure whether finally growing up or just too expensive to crash :D :o
blow out is pretty much a non event on the rear as long as you are not mid bend.
had one on the M6. Wasn't during some full bore attempt though but wasn't hanging about either. remould let go completely, felt some vibration, thought that doesn't feel right, lifted off while I debated what it was then bang flap flap flap flap. :eek::eek::eek:
ok better pull over... complete non event, although my wing, mudguard and arch extensions were brutalised
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I was on the straight at 75mph with a rear blowout, tyre flail locked in the coil spring so it was like putting the handbrake on and i hit the hardshould barrier sideways.... broke my L2 verterbrae and was in hospital for 2 weeks, not sure why this wasnt a 'non event' with your expert view then. :rolleyes:
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Probably trying to avoid destroying the tarmac by driving a huge hydraulic force into the road surface... pretty reasonable for people who understand science.
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I highly doubt most Chelsea tractor drivers have any sympathy what so ever for the tarmac they're driving on.
 
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