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Chances of overturning driving ban?
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This doesn't sound right, I thought for "totting up" purposes, only points earned in the last 3 years count? Though I'm unsure if the dates are based on the offense date or the date points get assigned.
15 points in a 3 year period is either very reckless or very incompetent. You get 6 or 9 points and you surely start driving as if you're constantly on a driving test, especially so if you actually value your licence and freedom to drive.
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This. When I was in my early 20s and was driving 50k+ miles per annum for work, i ended up on 9 points for around 3-4 months until the earliest points would drop off and for those 3-4 months I stuck to every speed limit religiously. Getting more points in that time would have meant losing my job and possibly my house.
Looking at your location, that doesn't surprise me. I must have missed out when the council decided to just drop a licence through everyone's letterbox, as that's the only way I can possibly fathom how most people round here actually managed to get one!
Unfortunately "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" is unlikely to be a good defence in this case
Considering 4 people have been killed in hit and runs including two children in that city this month due to people driving stupidly or too fast for the conditions etc. you're not wrong https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-four-cyclists-and-pedestrians-die-in-a-month
I'm actually impressed as I feel you have to make a serious effort to get to 15 points. Accidentally getting 3 or 6 points I understand but getting to 9+ without changing how you drive? That's impressive.
I've driven for 14 years and I've never had as much as a single point on my license and I'm often very liberal with the right foot.
I've driven for 14 years and I've never had as much as a single point on my license and I'm often very liberal with the right foot.
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I really wish I could say that she was a reckless driver and a speed freak, but she just isn't. I'm an anxious passenger at the best of times and I've never felt unsafe sat next to her. I do genuinely think that she's just got unlucky in areas down south especially. Not an excuses of course, she flat out is in the wrong and should pay more ******* attention, but to say she's a 'dangerous' driver with intent just isn't right.
No, she hasn't.
You could claim that if she got caught once, but not with 15 points. Sometimes you just cant defend things, people need to take responsibility for their actions.
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She is not paying attention, and that is reckless.
Not paying attention to the signage on the roads for speed. Not pay attention to the TomTom's speed warning in the car. Not paying attention to the points racking up and continuing to ignore them.
It's not unlucky, it's asking for it, like really want to get banned type of behaviour.
But unlucky would be to get caught once or twice. Unlucky is perhaps mistaking a bus lane/gate when you're not used to the area and getting a fine or risky parking on double yellows for 30 seconds and a pesky parking attendant stings you.
15 points is neither of those scenarios. I understand wanting to defend your partner and having her back but try to think if it wasn't your partner and someone else posted a thread saying their partner racked up 15 points. It's an absurd amount in a short period of time.
It might even help in the court if you genuinely can put in some measures before the hearing.Buy a car with road sign speed limiter function, she clearly needs it, it might save her if she can't learn, or get her a Citreon Ami as her punsihment, though she'd be able to speed in 20mph zones, it's a lot harder
If I was a judge I wouldn't have any sympathy for anything like "I need it for my job", "I have this condition".
But if you were trying and had some measures (genuine measures) in place to try and mitigate this in future... Maybe I'd show some leniency.
I wouldn't try to claim she was unlucky in the hearing! I'm guessing she's either careless or arrogant. Especially if it was multiple minor infractions. (ie 25 in a 20 vs 70 in a 20)
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I know she's your bird, but she speeds excessively and is caught with some degree of regularity over a relatively short period of time. I wouldn't say she's necessarily a dangerous driver, but it sounds like she is careless and has poor observation skills.
Disclaimer - I used to drive very, very fast on the road. Borderline racetrack stuff at times. I got caught speeding twice, in years and years (well over a decade) of doing this.
It's a bad situation, sure, but it's been of her own making.
My brother attracts points but when he's got more than he's comfortable with he sure as hell drives like a saint until some expire.
You both have to just suck it up and start figuring out how to work around it rather than wasting time thinking of ways of how to weasel out of it.
My brother attracts points but when he's got more than he's comfortable with he sure as hell drives like a saint until some expire.
You both have to just suck it up and start figuring out how to work around it rather than wasting time thinking of ways of how to weasel out of it.
You really need to understand when the points were added and due for expiry if you really think she hasn't clocked them all up in the last three years - she might be lucky enough that some paperwork has been processed incorrectly whilst some points were expiring.
That's the thing. I've always sped to some degree or another. Whether it is going LOLmph on the motorway or going 25mph in a 20mph (I swear Bristol Police don't care about this as no one sticks to the giant 20mph zone) and I've never been caught speeding, not once. Closest may have been when you get those surprise police vans on roads you don't expect but I must've been OK as nothing came through.
To get caught that many times you'd have to be oblivious to what's going on around. It's not like you don't get ample warning from signage that speed cameras are in the area
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Aha listen, this is GD. I wouldn't have posted it if I hadn't expected a great deal of abuse from the cleanest souls known to humaity. I just wondered if anyone else had perhaps been in/known someone in a similar situation.
That's sort of the point I was getting at. People with intent to speed will almost never get caught. They know how to avoid it.
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6 where actually due to expire in May I think. God knows if that's going to make a difference or not though.
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Same. I was caught once by a speed van. But never a static.
You've got to have poor awareness to get caught this many times... And as a driver, responsible for a death machine... "I'm not very perceptive" or "I'm just careless".. Aren't great reasons.
Op, I'd definitely work on figuring out what you're gonna do after if the likely ban happens. Is she hot enough to keep as a banned driver? For example!
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