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I've no idea what is needed to pass a driving test these days, but surely there must be some sort of mechanical education required?

You'll be asked one 'tell me' question and one 'show me' question:


The show me questions are nonsense like operating the windscreen washers. The tell me questions aren't exactly in depth.
 
I've no idea what is needed to pass a driving test these days, but surely there must be some sort of mechanical education required?

oddly enough in the test you have show the examiner how to check things like tyre tread depth and oil level



but they never do anything about looking at the dashboard and learning what all the funny red lights mean

suppose the examiners who pass candidates for tests can only cover so much

To be fair when I did my test I was never asked the question “ how do you use your headlights”. Which I never found out until after I passed my test , in which I had to figure out myself after it got dark … oops



edit : kenai beat me to it :eek:
 
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but they never do anything about looking at the dashboard and learning what all the funny red lights mean
Which is utterly ridiculous considering how high tech cars are now, like the warning lights are literally yelling at you to say somethings wrong, and all manufactures use pretty much the same warning symbols across the board.
If learning road signs are compulsory, then so should understanding dashboard faults and the implications imo.
 
I watch a bunch of US mechanics who post YT videos of similar (but usually far worse) stuff and I'm constantly amazed at how terrible some people's cars can be, with very obvious "how the hell....." faults and yet they've been driving it for months before the noise got too much etc!
 
I watch a bunch of US mechanics who post YT videos of similar (but usually far worse) stuff and I'm constantly amazed at how terrible some people's cars can be, with very obvious "how the hell....." faults and yet they've been driving it for months before the noise got too much etc!
Customer states?
 
Customer states?
Yeap, channels like carhax (mechanical problems playlist), mechanical nightmares etc and the amount of "customer declined the work" on things that are just plainly dangerous (completely rusted through Chassis etc) always amazes me.
 
Loads of this about sadly. We've bred a generation of people whose knowledge of cars ends at "press pedal, car go".

As the old adage goes, "back in my days a car's manual would tell you how to adjust the valve clearances, now they tell you not to drink the coolant".

Does make me wonder though, which is the cause, and which is the effect? Have we bred stupid people because cars are too safe and reliable, or have we had to make cars safer and more reliable because we've bred stupid people?

Sidenote, this happens to bikes too. This afternoon I was riding next to someone on a larger scoot than mine and by all accounts he should've dashed off in to the distance and left me behind, but he was riding really slowly. I got to a red light and he pulled up next to me and hit the brakes, his front wheel must've moved 6 inches back as his bike went "CLUNK". Clearly headstock bearings shot to bits, and yet there he is, riding it around like it ain't no thang.
Looks like you had same whatsap funny as I did.
 
Amazingly, me included, we think we are the last generation with common sense.

Yet aren't we the ones who are parents/ grand parents to the people who we think have no common sense.
Is it there fault or ours for doing everything for them.
 
You wouldn't have the wheels sticking out the arches anyway as that's an MOT fail.
that message hasn't filtered to the chavs around me.. I don't understand how some of the cars are drivable esp on our speed bump and potholes roads with wheels on an angle out beyond the arches and so low as to be almost touching the car
 
btw as for cars.... part of the blame Les with the car designers. I failed to change my car battery a few months back. I had to get he garage to do it. it even took him 30 mins and he had tools I didn't have.
replacing a headlight can also mean having to either be double jointed or removing an entire light cluster (I can't remember the car but one friend told me part of the bumper had to come off for their lights).
there are so many warning lights on car dashes... often times just faulty sensors. I kind of get why some people ignore them.
cars are not made to be user serviceable now so it's kind of understandable if people feel to intimidated to try and garages charge so much that the temptation is there to ignore a light thinking it's probably just a faulty / over sensitive sensor

there is some truth in people being less and less capable however and this goes beyond cars. both my dad and my father in law will happily do DIY jobs which , when doing it with them are actually fine but no way would I dare try on my own..... and going further equally I am happy to do things people 20 years younger than me won't try.
 
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I watch a bunch of US mechanics who post YT videos of similar (but usually far worse) stuff and I'm constantly amazed at how terrible some people's cars can be, with very obvious "how the hell....." faults and yet they've been driving it for months before the noise got too much etc!
A lot of US states don't have an equivalent of our MOT so people drive them around till they fall apart.
 
Yeap, channels like carhax (mechanical problems playlist), mechanical nightmares etc and the amount of "customer declined the work" on things that are just plainly dangerous (completely rusted through Chassis etc) always amazes me.

Americans though. Does it really amaze you?
 
I do think driving tests have been dumbed down, iirc they removed turn in the road or reverse round a corner (both of which are very useful skills imo) and put in setting a destination in a sat nav. I'm going to take a wild guess that 99% of people taking tests are young and have a smart phone so putting a destination in is a bit pointless as they should be able to do that blindfolded. I do think there should be more recourse for poor work though, especially in the case above where it had been mot'ed by the dodgy garage. I also think car companies should be forced to make serviceable parts more easily accessible like lights. Clearly they only make it convoluted in the hope most people will sack it off and take it to a garage.
 
I do think driving tests have been dumbed down, iirc they removed turn in the road or reverse round a corner (both of which are very useful skills imo) and put in setting a destination in a sat nav. I'm going to take a wild guess that 99% of people taking tests are young and have a smart phone so putting a destination in is a bit pointless as they should be able to do that blindfolded. I do think there should be more recourse for poor work though, especially in the case above where it had been mot'ed by the dodgy garage. I also think car companies should be forced to make serviceable parts more easily accessible like lights. Clearly they only make it convoluted in the hope most people will sack it off and take it to a garage.

Absolutely. As it happens I bumped in to the examiner that passed me 20 years ago and we were shooting the breeze. He pretty much said the same (he's long retired but obviously still deals with ex colleagues etc.) and couldn't believe the decline in standards of driving over the last 5 years in particular.
 
I do think driving tests have been dumbed down, iirc they removed turn in the road or reverse round a corner (both of which are very useful skills imo) and put in setting a destination in a sat nav. I'm going to take a wild guess that 99% of people taking tests are young and have a smart phone so putting a destination in is a bit pointless as they should be able to do that blindfolded. I do think there should be more recourse for poor work though, especially in the case above where it had been mot'ed by the dodgy garage. I also think car companies should be forced to make serviceable parts more easily accessible like lights. Clearly they only make it convoluted in the hope most people will sack it off and take it to a garage.

The reversing ones were the ones people used to struggle with, so it's a bit crazy they took them out as they were a good test of car control. I bet the amount of bumps in carparks etc have risen since :/
 
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