Singapore to execute a woman for first time in almost 20 years

sither · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:09

Singapore to execute a woman for first time in almost 20 years

Killing of Saridewi Djamani is one of two this week as activists say most on death row are marginalised people

amp.theguardian.com

Yes drugs are terrible but seems very harsh considering the amount.

ivrytwr3 · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:25

Bring back the death penalty. No more expense housing the worst of the worst and that money could be funneled to do better (wishful thinking).

Efour · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:28

Doesn't seem harsh, it is harsh, but play silly games win silly prices.

200sols · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:30

How many people has she killed with her drug imports I wonder. No sympathy here.

Diddums · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:37

Oh look, consequences. Such an alien concept here.

MichaelAwkward · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:40

ivrytwr3 said:
Bring back the death penalty. No more expense housing the worst of the worst and that money could be funneled to do better (wishful thinking).

Pretty sure carrying out death sentences is actually quite expensive, in the developed world anyway. More than $1m per case IIRC.

neocon · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:41

It's literally barbaric.

I think in Japan, if you kill two people you get the death penalty.

What's the logic here though? That heroin "might" result in the deaths of other people?

godinman · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:41

200sols said:
How many people has she killed with her drug imports I wonder. No sympathy here.

With her 30g of heroin? Probably not many.

So you'd be up for the death penalty in the UK then? With your logic we'd better kill speeders and drink drivers too, you know how many people they kill each year?

Good old GD. Such a weird mix of *****.

200sols · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:42

godinman said:
So you'd be up for the death penalty in the UK then?

Absolutely.

godinman said:
Good old GD. Such a weird mix of *****.

Don't be so harsh on yourself.

Freakbro · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:44

200sols said:
Absolutely.

I'm genuinely surprised at that, I'd not have put you down as an advocate for the death penalty.

neocon · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:48

They give the death penalty for cannabis if it's over a certain amount!

200sols · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:49

Freakbro said:
I'm genuinely surprised at that, I'd not have put you down as an advocate for the death penalty.

For certain crimes. I'm not saying we should be executing everyone or even drug smugglers but in principal I am not against. Life imprisonment is mental execution anyway so I'm not losing sleep over it.

neocon · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:50

I don't even want to transit through that place. What if someone slipped something into your suitcase.

Tykey · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:52

I don't agree with a death penalty for drug offences. For murder beyond all absolute doubt, maybe. But there have been incidences of people being executed only to turn out later they were innocent.

Uther · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:52

I'm guessing she knew what the penalty for drug smuggling was, yet did it anyway...
Considering the absolute misery drugs like heroin cause, I struggle to care.

ivrytwr3 · 27 Jul 2023 at 07:53

MichaelAwkward said:
Pretty sure carrying out death sentences is actually quite expensive, in the developed world anyway. More than $1m per case IIRC.

Still cheaper than many years on death row and all associated costs.

Voltar · 27 Jul 2023 at 08:09

Used to have similar views to some people in here. However I am now anti death penalty. It resolves nothing and given how flawed disclosure is in criminal litigation (here at least) the prospect of people being up for execution genuinely frightens me. Far too much scope for error and I wonder how many innocents over the years have had their lives stolen from them by the death penalty.

Singapore has its own laws, as do other states with the death penalty. I am glad I don’t live there.

Efour · 27 Jul 2023 at 08:29

godinman said:
With her 30g of heroin? Probably not many.

So you'd be up for the death penalty in the UK then? With your logic we'd better kill speeders and drink drivers too, you know how many people they kill each year?

Good old GD. Such a weird mix of *****.

I think you kill someone doing an absolutely wreckless speed or being ridiculously over the limit then sure. If a death penalty was in the UK thats just as a viable reason to give it...

neocon · 27 Jul 2023 at 08:30

Uther said:
I'm guessing she knew what the penalty for drug smuggling was, yet did it anyway...
Considering the absolute misery drugs like heroin cause, I struggle to care.

Could have been coerced into it for all we know.
She's not a king pin with 30g.

kinetic747 · 27 Jul 2023 at 08:30

I'm surprised how many people support the death penalty given the incompetence and corruption amongst the police force. Not many of them I know, but still too many. One poor guy cleared just yesterday after serving 17 years for a crime he didn't commit, it could just as easily have been a murder conviction so theoretically he could have been executed.