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Just what is NVIDIA up to?

GhostDog1981 said:
Wow what swayed it for you?
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The fact that generally the XTX is a bit ahead of the 4080, yet now and again in a growing list of games it just goes a bit mad and is as fast as a 4090!! Big plus for me is AMD Sharpen too, just makes all of my games look better and I'd prob take it over RT anyday.

A bonus is no black screens when alt-tabbing out of games too, happened a lot on Nvidia usually 5-6secs too. Annoying.
 
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I think holding onto cards with <12gb vram probably isn’t great long term as price/performance seems to be going to get worse next gen for both companies.

Main reason I got rid of my 3080 FE last year (for full price I paid for it) was the fact Far Cry 6 would max out the vram. I slummed with a 3060ti FE for 14 months and TLOU finally broke that resulting in me finally abandoning NVIDIA cards and their lack of value for money-vram skimped-offerings :(
 
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JediFragger said:
Plus you have the texture compression thing going on when a card is v low on vRam resource.
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It really is 4090/4080 (for vram purposes) or bust for Nvidia whereas for AMD at least they’re willing to give 2 options XT or XTX which aren’t millions of miles apart in performance (15-20%)
 
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brostradamus said:
www.pcgamer.com

Next-gen AMD RDNA 4 GPUs reportedly won't compete with Nvidia at the high end

This sounds like bad news, but is it actually?
www.pcgamer.com www.pcgamer.com

Next gen is going to be daylight robbery by Nvidia, if true
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Well...

7900XTX is 85% the performance of the 4090 at 56% of the price, no one wants it.
7900XT is 85% the performance of the 4080 at 68% of the price, no one wants it.
7600, its a decent GPU at 82% the price and 127% the performance of the GPU its replaced, this was AMD trying really hard, reviewers hated it, made a joke out of it and them, quite crewel.

Tech jurnoes see AMD's existence only as a force to drag Nvidia's lunatic pricing down, doesn't matter how suborn Nvidia are they will always fall back on trying to bully AMD in to working harder to make Nvidia GPU's cheaper.
Tech jurnoes have no respect what so ever for AMD as a GPU manufacturer in their own right, they don't take them seriously, that rubs off on consumers and with that AMD have zero chance.

AMD have never been happier when than they just told these tech jurnoes we don't make high end GPU's, here a couple of middling SKU's for not much money.
Frankly i don't blame them, and if this does happen it was inevitable, i've talked many times about how if we don't chill the #### out a bit on AMD it very easily could happen again.
 
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humbug said:
Well...

7900XTX is 85% the performance of the 4090 at 56% of the price, no one wants it.
7900XT is 85% the performance of the 4080 at 68% of the price, no one wants it.
7600, its a decent GPU at 82% the price and 127% the performance of the GPU its replaced, this was AMD trying really hard, reviewers hated it, made a joke out of it and them, quite crewel.

Tech jurnoes see AMD's existence only as a force to drag Nvidia's lunatic pricing down, doesn't matter how suborn Nvidia are they will always fall back on trying to bully AMD in to working harder in to making Nvidia GPU's cheaper.
Tech jurnoes have no respect what so ever for AMD as a GPU manufacturer in their own right, they don't take them seriously, that rubs off on consumers and with that AMD have zero chance.

AMD have never been happier when they just told these tech jurnoes we don't make high end GPU's, here a couple of middling SKU's for not much money.
Frankly i don't blame them, and if this does happen it was inevitable, i've talked many times about how if we don't chill the #### out a bit on AMD it very easily could happen.
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Radeon division probably sees all the negativity and decided there’s no point spending resources trying to create high end dGPUs as people will just buy a 4090/5090/6090 etc. don’t blame them (AMD) tbh.
 
JediFragger said:
I can confirm this, I had the 4080 and the XTX and chose to keep the XTX :)

Considering the massive price difference atm I'd even opt for it over the 4090!
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The reason I have a used 4080 is because a colleague loves to tinker with new GPUs. So he ended up with three 4090 orders on release day as he expected another lack of stock as with the previous gen release.

When the panic and stock shortages didn’t materialise, he panicked and cancelled two of them. Then after some sanity set in, he realised £1700 for a GPU was excessive and send it back after a week and bought a more reasonably priced 4080 FE. Then when 7900 XTX released a few months later the tinkerer in him could not resist. He liked it and kept it and sold me his 4080 to me for £900.

Now I have a 4080 and a 7900 XT I can say the 4080 at £1100 is stupidly overpriced. The 7900 XT is about 5% slower in raster at 1440p OC vs OC and the RT games are perfectly playable with FSR.
 
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ICDP said:
The reason I have a used 4080 is because a colleague loves to tinker with new GPUs. So he ended up with three 4090 orders on release day as he expected another lack of stock as with the previous gen release.

When the panic and stock shortages did it materialise, he panicked and cancelled two of them. Then after some sanity set in, he realised £1700 for a GPU was excessive and send it back after a week and bought a more reasonably priced 4080 FE. Then when 7900 XTX released a few months later the tinkerer in him could not resist. He liked it and kept it and sold me his 4080 to me for £900.

Now I have a 4080 and a 7900 XT I can say the 4080 at £1100 is stupidly overpriced. The 7900 XT is about 5% slower in raster at 1440p OC vs OC and the RT games are perfectly playable with FSR.
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Still the AMD doubters would come up with some european aggregate ratings from 9 months ago and try and say the 4080 is 20% better when in reality it’s only 5% away in terms of raster and with OC of a 7900XT you’re matching it. Obviously you can always overclock a 4080 tbh.
 
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GhostDog1981 said:
Still the AMD doubters would come up with some european aggregate ratings from 9 months ago and try and say the 4080 is 20% better when in reality it’s only 5% away in terms of raster and with OC of a 7900XT you’re matching it. Obviously you can always overclock a 4080 tbh.
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Yes but I am comparing max OC vs max OC. The 7900XT gives 10% actual performance increase vs 5% on the 4080 in general. At stock it’s about 10% to the 4080.
 
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GhostDog1981 said:
Radeon division probably sees all the negativity and decided there’s no point spending resources trying to create high end dGPUs as people will just buy a 4090/5090/6090 etc. don’t blame them (AMD) tbh.
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Good maybe we'll get good mid range options, I never bothered with 90 tier anyway, pretty sure most of the market isn't either

Maybe they'll call them all 89xx ? ;)
 
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GhostDog1981 said:
Still the AMD doubters would come up with some european aggregate ratings from 9 months ago and try and say the 4080 is 20% better when in reality it’s only 5% away in terms of raster and with OC of a 7900XT you’re matching it. Obviously you can always overclock a 4080 tbh.
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HW unboxed just rested it and found its improved by 3%, that doesn't put it within 5% of a 4080.
 
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ICDP said:
The reason I have a used 4080 is because a colleague loves to tinker with new GPUs. So he ended up with three 4090 orders on release day as he expected another lack of stock as with the previous gen release.

When the panic and stock shortages did it materialise, he panicked and cancelled two of them. Then after some sanity set in, he realised £1700 for a GPU was excessive and send it back after a week and bought a more reasonably priced 4080 FE. Then when 7900 XTX released a few months later the tinkerer in him could not resist. He liked it and kept it and sold me his 4080 to me for £900.

Now I have a 4080 and a 7900 XT I can say the 4080 at £1100 is stupidly overpriced. The 7900 XT is about 5% slower in raster at 1440p OC vs OC and the RT games are perfectly playable with FSR.
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You and @JediFragger besties?
 
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