Executed by nitrogen gas

Not sure how I feel about this tbh. As above there are often mistakes in judicial systems. Plus, is killing really a punishment. Extinguishing someone is obviously taking away their right to a life, but they aren't going to know they are missing out on it are they?

On the other hand a whole life sentence is a long time for someone to be punished and a lot of resources required. Perhaps different crimes should have set years for a sentence then execution.

Man, I'm glad I don't have to make decisions on this for real :cry:
 
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moon man said:
Do you think that there is an element of punishment about these executions rather than just simply killing these people, wouldn't it be more humane to put them under general anesthetic and then do whatever it takes medically to end a life or do the horrendous crimes most have committed means its well deserved, both the wait and a (probably) nasty end ,what do i think ? probably punishment intended ,think i would need the facts of the crime, strength of the conviction to say if deserved or not

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I think there is an element of punishment, yes. One injection and they could knock someone out, then you could just drop them in water and they would silently pass. But, no, that's not what they want. They want to see the guy suffering.

I have always been against the death penalty. Even ignoring the moral implications of taking a life, I just think that too many people turn out to be innocent years after the fact.
 
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And still prisons or death penalties don't deter crime.

There is sadism in the methods of execution. Are we sure that this is the only way..? What about AI? Or the new DragonFire laser system to make light work of this.

There's an autobiography of Britain's last hangman out there. He sounded professional in the macabre world he worked in.
 
For all the “hur dur who cares” talk, bear in mind that someone has to administer the injection/gas etc and I’m not sure we really want to create people who are comfortable inflicting a painful death on another human. I don’t support capital punishment but if the medical and pharmaceutical industry won’t touch it then I feel medical and pharmaceutical methods of execution are a bad idea.
 
Weird how it's the small-state conservatives that are usually enthusiastically for allowing the state to take the one thing from it's citizens that can't be undone.

The value of human life seems bizarrely twisted up in some mental dog's breakfast. Or their heads are just full of rocks. Who knows.

I suppose it comes down to your ability to 'other' people. Once you've split the world into Them vs Us, it's very easy to justify doing awful things to Them.
 
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If I understand correctly they are using this method because lethal injection previously failed (due to not being able to get a vein which was usable, and causing considerable pain trying to do so).

Either way, nowadays I am against the death penalty.
 
It's untested but incredible successful in suicide. Inert gas asphixiation would certainly be my choice, either with Nitrogen or Helium.

So long as it's done right, it'll be a solid solution. Failures are usually down to not enough gas being used either by leaks from mask or poor attempt in general.
 
keef247 said:
Yeah, I'm 110% only meaning fully proven wronguns.

If you wreck/abuse/someones life, especially a woman/child's/hurt/burgle or mug an old person and literally ruin their life/cause them to live in fear/be suicidal/damaged for the rest of their life, you need to be seriously damaged back, ideally over the entirety of your existence, no 'creature comforts' or yard time/sunlight/social interaction, other than someone raping them at night when locked up and in the showers :)

They should be made to live the most boring mentally destroyed life back, failing that do the Law Abiding Citizen, but let some smackhead get them hooked for a bit and loose the plot in jail getting raped by even wronger wronguns, making them feel like the victim and living in the same fear the wrongun made their innocent victim(s) feel...
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Why especially a woman? I guess you have never been married.
 
I really do get disappointed with myself at times. Even though most/the majority of people who end up on Death Row deserve their place there due to committing the most heinous crimes I still find myself having pity on these criminals and not agreeing with government sponsored murder.

I just can't ever shake the feeling that execution is nothing more than a revenge vessel for the victims family. It doesn't bring anyone back and the only closure is "well at least they're dead now". Easy to say this from a place of someone who hasn't had their loved ones murdered but I just can't get on board with the whole 'eye for an eye'.

It's why I can never watch those death row interviews/documentaries because my stupid liberal/compassionate side ends up serving up sympathy for people who don't deserve it.
 
keef247 said:
Naw sorry babes, even I'm surprised you don't see the irony that I'm just doing what you're doing to me back? Bless you, thought that was obvious!

Sorry I didn't realise there was a time limit to copycat your childish antics :) I'll drop everything in future and try harder next time eh ;)
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Good retort :cry:. Called out on pathetic behaviour and you double down.

For the record - I wasn't being childish, I genuinely laughed when I read your responses due to how ridiculous they were, hence my reactions applied AT THE TIME and not going back and applying them retrospectively to all your posts "because boy is being mean to me and he has done it to mine!! :mad:" :cry:

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I see you've given up on your argument that adult male rape is worse than doing it to an innocent defenseless child, least that's progress...
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keef247 said:
No YOU BOTH are twisting what I'm saying.

My entire point has always been that the worst of the worst is rape/abuse done to a defenseless kid. ALL he has come back with each time is a poor me don't you think it's bad to be done to adult males too, which I never claimed it wasn't, but then he went on a oh this is a gender thing, NO it's been a reinforced fact it is obviously WORSE to a defenseless child!
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I haven't given it up at all. 3 things from the comments above:
  1. At no point did I say male rape was worse than any other rape, let alone a child so please refrain from putting words in my mouth. If you're going to argue against my point(s), at least be accurate rather than lying about what I said

  2. I haven't twisted ANYTHING - You initially said "If you wreck/abuse/someones life, especially a woman/child's/hurt/burgle or mug an old person..." and have now pivoted it to JUST children and left out women in an attempt to bolster your argument. It's difficult to discuss a point when the other party moves the goalposts mid-argument and then denies doing so :rolleyes:

  3. Its YOU who has twisted what I have said (see point 1 above) so please dont play the victim and then attempt to gaslight me in the process. If you still feel aggrieved, I suggest you re-read what everyone has said as its all in black and white.

keef247 said:
I listed multiple things that deserve execution, I then enforced my opinion that taking on a female of any age versus a male IS worse and done a LOT more, which it is...
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The figures certainly agree that females are raped more often than men however I am not sure the same can be said about how one is worse than the other.

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Males are more capable physically to attempt to defend themselves, that isn't me being nasty to women nor men, but we are bigger than women and stronger usually, and females aren't exactly growing up fighting with males in the same way lads grow up scraping with each other/bullied, it is a whole different ball game, yes it is very bad for it to happen to a male of any age too, and I'm not saying all males can/would/do/have defended themselves in any form of attack/rape/abuse!
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So let me put this to you - Is it possible that a man will be mentally/emotionally traumatised after being raped if he thought along the the same lines as you - "I'm a man, I should have been able to defend myself and prevent being raped.... But I didn't/couldn't"


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I'm just saying it does happen more to women/kids/vulnerable people, and there definitely is not groups of rapists going out praying on any bloke they can find unlike with women/elderly...
They WILL get some form of defense done back by most men, and even if they don't defend, there still isn't packs/gangs of men going out trying to rape a random bloke on the street versus women...
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Most rapes aren't carried out by "packs of men". Its generally 1 on 1... On that basis - Reynhard Sinaga: Serial rapist 'abused 206 men


keef247 said:
I also said it's bad regardless of who/situation? I said that multiple times...

I then said doing anything to a child is the worst, which it obviously is. Versus any of the other crimes, simply because a child is defenseless on an incomparable scale. How is that a lie?
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Be honest at least - What you said, and then lied about saying, is:
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So you're saying poor me men that are raped have it as bad as a defenseless child/old lady/young girl/woman?
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Regardless of trying to compare them to other rape victims, you just stated that Male Rape Victims are "poor me men that are raped"?? I mean WTAF :eek:
 
I found the BBC article on it a bit weird. Like a bleedin' heart sob story. 'Oh my poor anxiety on getting a new death sentence method'.
Well maybe you should've have been a murdering scumbag. Sooner he stops breathing oxygen the better.
 
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