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Absolutely. Totally agree with you.
Executed by nitrogen gas
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Not seen it, on the tweet it says he couldnt lift 19kgs, how do they know that? Is it explained?
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American pharmaceutical companies are putting morals over making money?!?!?!? I cant believe that!
I think it's more due to the boycott they would receive from the public. So it's still a decision driven by profit.
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That's what Im questioning though - if they won't supply the traditional cocktail, then why can't they just use widely available general anaesthetics in high doses?
Don't think they can get a licensed physician to administer it, Hippocratic oath and all that.
General anaesthetic isn’t ‘widely available’ - you can’t just rock up to the anaesthetic shop and buy a truck load.
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Whenever an establishment like a prison wishes to purchase drugs, they have to state exactly what it will be used for. They have to be honest and admit that it will be used to sedate prisoners for execution. Once the pharma companies read this, the sale ain’t happening.
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Until he's in more pain than Elizabeth Sennett, the woman he murdered, then I don't care.
www.dailymail.co.uk
I've noticed when these cases are covered in the media, either written or visual, the reporters seem reluctant to state what the person did to get there.
If you murder someone expect to be killed.
Who was Kenneth Eugene Smith's victim Elizabeth Sennett?
Kenneth Eugene Smith will be the first person in the world to be executed using nitrogen gas , for his 1988 murder of Elizabeth Sennett. But who was the victim? And why did Smith kill her?
I've noticed when these cases are covered in the media, either written or visual, the reporters seem reluctant to state what the person did to get there.
If you murder someone expect to be killed.
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Jesus, the green mile is one of those few movies that slaps me, especially that scene. I didn't know it was based on this..... it makes it even more awful. Christ.....
That whole ordeal and the lead up to that execution was equally awful. No lawyer or parents....
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One would have thought that a state government would be able to procure it quite easily, perhaps just rock up to the local hospital.
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My favourite concept of capital punishment pushers is the eye for an eye mentality. It's circular. The murderer has no right to murder someone, I'm sure we all agree on that. But to let them, and the world know, it's wrong, we murder them. So now the government has done a murder. Do we murder the government?
I just read the BBC article on this guy's execution. Completely inhumane. I accept in the broadest terms that they want to kill this guy, but just ******* kill him. This ******* around with terrible execution solutions is disgusting. You might expect this **** from a Jewish society where an eye for an eye is literally what they're told to do, but this is deeply unchristian, which is the opposite of what most of these capital punishment advocates in the USA claim to be.
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Just because the people being executed may have been convicted of being monsters doesn't mean the rest of us want people to go out in an inhumane way.
We're supposed to be better than that, aren't we?
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Same here.
Perhaps the companies refuse on grounds of who is buying the drugs, since I suppose that information must be put forward on the order. Perhaps they just say no to everything they try to order? I don't know.
Just thinking a little on this:
1. Proponents of it being painless assume the target takes breaths normally leading to a sudden drop in blood Oxygen preventing the automatic panic response. In a execution the target knows and will attempt to not breath, the result is a slow drop in Oxygen and results in an automatic panic response.
2. The brain “death” in this instance starts cellular death at 2 mins, at 4 mins neuron death starts. This causes misfiring of neurons thus muscular movement.
3. Organs don’t stop immediately, dying through lack of oxygen over the next hour or two.. same with any execution/death
1. Proponents of it being painless assume the target takes breaths normally leading to a sudden drop in blood Oxygen preventing the automatic panic response. In a execution the target knows and will attempt to not breath, the result is a slow drop in Oxygen and results in an automatic panic response.
2. The brain “death” in this instance starts cellular death at 2 mins, at 4 mins neuron death starts. This causes misfiring of neurons thus muscular movement.
3. Organs don’t stop immediately, dying through lack of oxygen over the next hour or two.. same with any execution/death
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Geez, you're right, it's so obvious. You should probably let them know because I think they're ****ing around with nitrogen for no reason, they can just go down to Walmart and buy some Propofol.
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This information is freely available, perhaps educate yourself rather than idly speculating? Case in point, one of the drugs most commonly used in general anaesthesia is made in Italy and the manufacturer won't export to the US for use in capital punishment.
Religious when it suits I take it?