Yep, aside from convicted murderers, terrorists, Peados, gangsters. Zero benefit to society.
Executed by nitrogen gas
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Yep, aside from convicted murderers, terrorists, Peados, gangsters. Zero benefit to society.
Tough **** tbh
I'm not overall opposed to capital punishment for the most heinous crimes but there is just so much wrong with the American system and this latest method of execution sounds appalling.
For starters the US justice system sees most prisoners spend longer on Death Row than most other countries would mandate as a life sentence.
Suffocation by nitrogen gas, even if anaesthetised first (and there's no indication that was done) is exactly the same principle as the (cyanide) gas chamber where the condemned prisoner is effectively forced to administer their own demise by breathing in the toxic gas.
TBH, if you are going to have a death penalty then correctly carried out long drop hanging is probably still the most effective means, with a British style noose (a brass eye, not a cowboy coil), a properly calculated drop to break the neck and the condemned cell next door to the scaffold (no "last mile") so it takes around 8 seconds from the executioners entering the cell to the prisoner dead on the end of the rope. It's literally over before they know what's happening.
But the Yanks seem to like going in for spectacle and the thought of having a mask clamped to your face is just wrong on every level. I had gas twice at the dentist as a youngster and also had a mask over my face at the hospital while being given a general anaesthetic for an operation and they were a gruesome experience.
For starters the US justice system sees most prisoners spend longer on Death Row than most other countries would mandate as a life sentence.
Suffocation by nitrogen gas, even if anaesthetised first (and there's no indication that was done) is exactly the same principle as the (cyanide) gas chamber where the condemned prisoner is effectively forced to administer their own demise by breathing in the toxic gas.
TBH, if you are going to have a death penalty then correctly carried out long drop hanging is probably still the most effective means, with a British style noose (a brass eye, not a cowboy coil), a properly calculated drop to break the neck and the condemned cell next door to the scaffold (no "last mile") so it takes around 8 seconds from the executioners entering the cell to the prisoner dead on the end of the rope. It's literally over before they know what's happening.
But the Yanks seem to like going in for spectacle and the thought of having a mask clamped to your face is just wrong on every level. I had gas twice at the dentist as a youngster and also had a mask over my face at the hospital while being given a general anaesthetic for an operation and they were a gruesome experience.
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What’s the stuff that Dignitas use for assisted suicide at their clinics?
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Yeah I'd far rather have my neck stretched and snapped blindfolded after a fall, than lose consciousness in a matter of seconds lying on a bench.
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Would've been better to just smack him over the head with the N2 cylinder. Those ***** will do some proper damage.
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Same stuff I think, I have been looking for the article I read a few months ago about it.
edit, yep its the same gas used, so as far as I’m concerned, if its good enough for assisted suicide, it’s good enough for some dirty Murderer, Rapist, Pedo
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Reminds me of the suicide booths in Future Rama.
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I get why people are against the death penalty, miscarriages of justice, playing god(although if you have the opinion that religion is fairy tales then that's moot) etc. Maybe someone serving a life sentence is more of a punishment than the lights going out but with the death penalty at least it guarantees that the person wouldn't be able to ruin anyone else's life.
I'm not sure certain people are able to be reformed, what about a Hamas terrorist who raped and murdered an innocent woman, how about Wayne Cousens or the guy who stabbed those two students and the caretaker in Nottingham...its a pretty hard sell that any of those would ever be a useful member of society.
I'm not sure certain people are able to be reformed, what about a Hamas terrorist who raped and murdered an innocent woman, how about Wayne Cousens or the guy who stabbed those two students and the caretaker in Nottingham...its a pretty hard sell that any of those would ever be a useful member of society.
just from a cursory glance at the case, it seems that it's far from 'obvious' - there were doubts to his level of involvement in the actual murder. the jury also recommended life in prison rather than the death penalty, from what i read.
absolutely not trying to take anything away from the victim or the families suffering but basically torturing a man to death, when there's doubts around his guilt - never mind the botched attempt previously and obvious mental torture he'll have had to endure, is a vary dangerous path to for society to be headed. execute him, fine, if that's what the law has decided but not how this was done.
don't get me wrong, if someone did something like that to my mother i'd want them skinned alive and publicly disembowelled but that's probably a good reason why victims or their families don't get to set the punishment in criminal cases.
human guinea pigs for medical testing purposes? joking aside, there is 100% an argument for the death penalty under the right circumstances but how it's currently handled, certainly in the USA, lordy no.
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Falsely accused/framed.. easy way to bunk off political opponents.. it’s not the happy path that’s the problem.
A barbituarite, iirc it's Nembutal. My dog was euthanised the other day, he was injected with a sedative 1st then 10 mins later the main drug, not 100% sure what the vet used, think he mentioned a barbituarite, my dog passed away very peacefully.
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Can you kill someone using laughing gas?
That might be one to consider?
That might be one to consider?
Sorry about your dog
I read that in this case there is speculation the person they executed made attempts to hold their breath and that the mask did not fit correctly which is why they struggled, or would have been over a lot faster. Who knows though, fairly sure we won't get a clear answer for a while.
Die fast or laugh trying.
I would imagine trying to hold their breath would be a completely natural, yet ultimately stupid thing to do whilst being put to death.Sorry about your dog
I read that in this case there is speculation the person they executed made attempts to hold their breath and that the mask did not fit correctly which is why they struggled, or would have been over a lot faster. Who knows though, fairly sure we won't get a clear answer for a while.
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Apparently, so I've heard, N2O is one the best ways to get away with murder.