5090 Price

Hostile_18 · 3 Jan 2025 at 20:23

harmattan said:
Better figure out how to daisy chain PSUs in that case.

It's looking more and more like a £1200 RRP for 5080 is probable. It's also sounding like it will be -10-15% 4090 performance (with less VRAM). An anemic flagship card designed to reduce production and component costs to the utmost while "encouraging" buyers to upgrade to the mid-cycle refresh. "4080 12GB", second attempt.

If true it would destroy Kopites flawless track record. He says +10% a 4090 and no significant price increases.

harmattan · 3 Jan 2025 at 20:50

Hostile_18 said:
If true it would destroy Kopites flawless track record. He says +10% a 4090 and no significant price increases.

I really don't see with 5080's specs how it will be faster than 4090, and think nV (and their army of bought reviewers) will lean heavily into DLSS. And I really don't see nV not raising prices, and now the TPU price listings of $1300 and $2500.

Would love to be proven wrong on both points.

Hostile_18 · 3 Jan 2025 at 21:02

harmattan said:
I really don't see with 5080's specs how it will be faster than 4090, and think nV (and their army of bought reviewers) will lean heavily into DLSS. And I really don't see nV not raising prices, and now the TPU price listings of $1300 and $2500.

Would love to be proven wrong on both points.

I don't think they would compare dlss 5080 vs 4090 without it that would be silly, either both on or both off IMO.

I say good post by someone who knows more than me about +30% architecture gains over the 40 series. I'll see if I can find it.

Howling · 3 Jan 2025 at 21:02

harmattan said:
Better figure out how to daisy chain PSUs in that case.

It's looking more and more like a £1200 RRP for 5080 is probable. It's also sounding like it will be -10-15% 4090 performance (with less VRAM). An anemic flagship card designed to reduce production and component costs to the utmost while "encouraging" buyers to upgrade to the mid-cycle refresh. "4080 12GB", second attempt.

Edit: Just noticed TPU's spec pages have been updated with prices. Take this for what it's worth, but they're usually right on the mark:

5090 - $2500
5080 - $1300

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Specs

NVIDIA GB202, 2407 MHz, 21760 Cores, 680 TMUs, 176 ROPs, 32768 MB GDDR7, 1750 MHz, 512 bit

www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Specs

NVIDIA GB203, 2617 MHz, 10752 Cores, 336 TMUs, 112 ROPs, 16384 MB GDDR7, 1875 MHz, 256 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Jan 6... The day PC gaming died for enthusiasts.

Those prices don't make much sense if we believe the leaked specs and/or believe the 5080 is there to make the 5090 look good... Almost double the price for what, spec wise, might BARELY be double the performance. Makes for a poor value proposition. $1200-1300 5080 and $2000-2200 5090 would be more reasonable if upselling is the goal and/or we believe the specs (if those specs also scale performance).

Hostile_18 · 3 Jan 2025 at 21:04

Here it is. Credit to Sashaw on Videocardz.com.

Blackwell's SM should have occupancy increases due to larger register files/caches and improvements in scheduling bursty workloads. The reason 4090 is only ~20% faster than 4080 SUPER in many games despite having over 50% more shaders is due to the fact that over a certain point, game shaders aren't dispatching enough WARPs individually to fully saturate the 4090's shader array and scaling starts dropping off even though you're adding more SMs you're hitting diminishing returns due to gaps in execution. Blackwell will probably have 2X the occupancy per SM so it can track more WARPs in flight so it can "pipeline" in more work from more, non-dependent shaders to fill those gaps. Probably has 10-15% more perf/SM/clock. I also heard it has MUCH higher clocks so expect 3GHz+ so that's another 15% perf in clocks.

Per SM, I expect it to be 30% faster than Ada (clocks included). That is the gap between Turing and Ampere per SM. 5080 will match/beat 4090 because of that alone. 5090 will be 60-70% faster than 4090. don't expect it to be less than 2000 USD.

Ascendancy · 3 Jan 2025 at 21:05

Since this weekend is the last chance for wild speculation, before any more leaks drop I'm going to lock in my guess at the 5090 being 60% faster than the 4090 and the FE costing £1999

Hostile_18 · 3 Jan 2025 at 21:09

Ascendancy said:
Since this weekend is the last chance for wild speculation, before any more leaks drop I'm going to lock in my guess at the 5090 being 60% faster than the 4090 and the FE costing £1999

I'm sticking by my numbers too mate.

5080 £999-1199 (+5-10% 4090)
5090 <£2000 (+70% 4090)

Let's goooo

Personality+ · 3 Jan 2025 at 21:25

Hostile_18 said:
Here it is. Credit to Sashaw on Videocardz.com.

better start selling those 4090's if this comes to pass.

Tommy_Here · 3 Jan 2025 at 21:34

Since this is the last chance for guesses, this is what I’m going with.. I feel the 5090 might be optimistic?? Well soon see.

5090 - £1,799.00 - 75% faster than 4090
5080 - £1,199.00 5-10% faster than 4090
5070 Ti - £899.00 10% faster than 4080 Super
5070 - £649.00 - 4070 Ti Super level performance

RevBillyG · 3 Jan 2025 at 21:35

Wonder if they'll edit out the boos from the audience when Jensen announces the price

Vertigo · 3 Jan 2025 at 21:43

Hostile_18 said:
Here it is. Credit to Sashaw on Videocardz.com.

Where's the exact source for this as I've not seen it.

Vertigo · 3 Jan 2025 at 21:48

I called £1800 for the 5090 back in May

Upgrading 4090 to 5090 - minimising upgrade cost.

I don't even try to resist now, I just kinda just roll with it :D

forums.overclockers.co.uk

razorpakk · 3 Jan 2025 at 21:53

harmattan said:
Better figure out how to daisy chain PSUs in that case.

It's looking more and more like a £1200 RRP for 5080 is probable. It's also sounding like it will be -10-15% 4090 performance (with less VRAM). An anemic flagship card designed to reduce production and component costs to the utmost while "encouraging" buyers to upgrade to the mid-cycle refresh. "4080 12GB", second attempt.

Edit: Just noticed TPU's spec pages have been updated with prices. Take this for what it's worth, but they're usually right on the mark:

5090 - $2500
5080 - $1300

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Specs

NVIDIA GB202, 2407 MHz, 21760 Cores, 680 TMUs, 176 ROPs, 32768 MB GDDR7, 1750 MHz, 512 bit

www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Specs

NVIDIA GB203, 2617 MHz, 10752 Cores, 336 TMUs, 112 ROPs, 16384 MB GDDR7, 1875 MHz, 256 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Jan 6... The day PC gaming died for enthusiasts.

Again with the 5080 being slower than 4090 XD

That would imply the 5080 is just 10% faster than 4080. Doesn't make any sense.

Monitor Man · 3 Jan 2025 at 22:08

My next PC build is likely to be my last, so I was hoping to go for the 5090 to get as long as possible out of it. But even then, I don't think I could justify ~£2K.

markoboyo11 · 3 Jan 2025 at 22:15

I hope the prices are ridiculous because I'm selling up the pc and getting a laptop for what few games I play. Hoping to get as much back on my 4090 as possible.

Nitefly · 3 Jan 2025 at 22:41

The TPU site also says no display port 2.1 :confused:

- I’d be surprised if that’s right.

cliffy · 3 Jan 2025 at 23:20

I have seen some crazy prces mentioned for teh 5080 buty i just do not see it £1600 for teh5080 is creazy, Nvidia back tracked with pricing of teh 4080 last time releasing teh 4080 Super approx £200 lower. I just cannot see them making the same mistake twice. I am calling
5080 - £999
5090 £1700

xaldub · 3 Jan 2025 at 23:55

What are we thinking will be the minimum PSU rating to power a 5090 given its rumoured TDP of 575W ? 1000Watt ? Or more ?

Kanpai · 4 Jan 2025 at 00:09

JediFragger · 4 Jan 2025 at 00:38

Vertigo said:
I called £1800 for the 5090 back in May

Upgrading 4090 to 5090 - minimising upgrade cost.

I don't even try to resist now, I just kinda just roll with it :D

forums.overclockers.co.uk

Thanks for the reminder Mr CrystalBalls, if it's correct we'll send over your prize of a leather jacket