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GhostDog1981 said:
Nitro prices have gone up to £730. That’s pushing into 5070ti msrp territory. I’d rather have a base 5070ti at that price for a better performant card.
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No it isn’t. You cannot get a 5070Ti for anywhere near £730. If you are going to moan about retailers price gouging, at least have the decency to compare like with like. The cheapest 5070Ti I saw in stock was £860 or so and many pushing over £1000.
 
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ICDP said:
No it isn’t. You cannot get a 5070Ti for anywhere near £730. If you are going to moan about retailers price gouging, at least have the decency to compare like with like. The cheapest 5070Ti I saw in stock was £860 or so and many pushing over £1000.
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Ahh but you are talking about the street prices currently.

Nvidia have the msrp at £729.

See my posts earlier where I don’t doubt for a minute that they will flood the market shortly.
 
Irrelevant at this point as you are specifically ranting about 9070 XT scalped prices due to stock shortages. To compare that with your launch day experience is disingenuous at best. I had a £569 9070 XT in my basket 4 times yesterday and decided not to bother but that doesn’t make current “scalping” prices moot.

If. You are talking about waiting for stock to normalise, a 9070 XT will be about £570 vs a 5070Ti for £740
 
rare said:
I caved and bought a 9070 (non XT). Read pretty much every review out there and the performance uplift didn’t seem worth the additional cost or power draw to me. I’m really pleased to see how efficient the 9070 is in comparison. Sold my 7700 XT for the same price I bought it for six months ago so it was a pretty reasonable upgrade overall.
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I wouldn't call it caving. I watched a 9070XT + 9070 overclocking video (below). He had a 9070 running barely behind a 9070XT all while using less power. This why I think AMD priced the 9070 so close to the XT. He also undervolted the XT, got similar performance, and only used 260w. I'm looking forward to playing around with my XT to optimize for efficiency. AMD tends to flog their highest end chips a bit too far past their efficiency point. Undervolting has been and still is the new overclocking with AMD.


Good news for me. Shipping on my card showed Saturday on the website when I bought it. DPD delivering it today!
 
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ICDP said:
Irrelevant at this point as you are specifically ranting about 9070 XT scalped prices due to stock shortages. To compare that with your launch day experience is disingenuous at best. I had a £569 9070 XT in my basket 4 times yesterday and decided not to bother but that doesn’t make current “scalping” prices moot.

If. You are talking about waiting for stock to normalise, a 9070 XT will be about £570 vs a 5070Ti for £740
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Ok not sure why you are getting het up?

I haven’t started the day to cause any conflict, all I am saying is normalising the rising prices of 9070XT msrp is not helpful longer term.

All cards will be available for msrp at some point in their launch cycle.
 
GhostDog1981 said:
Ok not sure why you are getting het up?

I haven’t started the day to cause any conflict, all I am saying is normalising the rising prices of 9070XT msrp is not helpful longer term.

All cards will be available for msrp at some point in their launch cycle.
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lol, who’s getting het up? I’m just calling out your nonsensical logic. Have the decency to debate honestly and stop comparing apples to oranges.

Using your logic I should compare an unobtainable MSRP £569 9070 XT to a scalped £1050 5070Ti… but that would be silly ;)
 
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Let the price gouging commence!

One of OCUK's main competitors is now listing the Gigabyte 9070 Gaming OC for £699. Yes, the non-XT model which was £529 yesterday. The XT version is £779 :eek:
 
Technavidian said:
I wouldn't call it caving. I watched a 9070XT + 9070 overclocking video (below). He had a 9070 running barely behind a 9070XT all while using less power. This why I think AMD priced the 9070 so close to the XT. He also undervolted the XT, got similar performance, and only used 260w. I'm looking forward to playing around with my XT to optimize for efficiency. AMD tends to flog their highest end chips a bit too far past their efficiency point. Undervolting has been and still is the new overclocking with AMD.


Good news for me. Shipping on my card showed Saturday on the website when I bought it. DPD delivering it today!
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Yeah, I almost bit on a 9070 at MSRP when I saw the power efficiency and overclocking potential. I think people may have underrated the vanilla 9070
 
ICDP said:
No it isn’t. You cannot get a 5070Ti for anywhere near £730. If you are going to moan about retailers price gouging, at least have the decency to compare like with like. The cheapest 5070Ti I saw in stock was £860 or so and many pushing over £1000.
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And I bet that £860 was a low-end model. £730 for a 9070xt is a bit high and resellers are really puahing the envelope on gouging. But we're talking about a base, MSRP 5070ti vs the highest-end 9070xt
 
ICDP said:
lol, who’s getting het up? I’m just calling out your nonsensical logic. Have the decency to debate honestly and stop comparing apples to oranges.

Using your logic I should compare an unobtainable MSRP £569 9070 XT to a scalped £1050 5070Ti… but that would be silly ;)
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What are you trying to say? Are you saying we should accept gouged prices and be thankful?

I will hold both manufacturer to account:

9070XT not paying a penny over £569

5070ti not paying again a penny or a pound over £729

What is so difficult about that concept?
 
McPhee said:
Let the price gouging commence!

One of OCUK's main competitors is now listing the Gigabyte 9070 Gaming OC for £699. Yes, the non-XT model which was £529 yesterday. The XT version is £779 :eek:
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I think some of the scalping will adjust. The fact there are 5070Tis and 9070XTs still in stock at such silly £150 - £200+ prices is telling. It will normalise as long as stock is coming through the channels.
 
GhostDog1981 said:
What are you trying to say? Are you saying we should accept gouged prices and be thankful?

I will hold both manufacturer to account:

9070XT not paying a penny over £569

5070ti not paying again a penny or a pound over £729

What is so difficult about that concept?
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No, I’m not saying that at all. It’s a simple concept in logic.

You compared literally unobtainable price of a 5070Ti to a scalped price of a 9070XT as if it was fair.

Scalped vs scalped, or MSRP vs MSRP the 5070Ti is a lot more expensive than a 9070 XT like for like.
 
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ICDP said:
No, I’m not saying that at all. It’s a simple concept in logic.

You compared literally unobtainable price of a 5070Ti to a scalped price of a 9070XT as if it was fair.

Scalped vs scalped, or fake MSRP vs fake MSRP the 5070Ti is a lot more expensive than a 9070 XT like for like.
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Okay. We agree on your last statement. A fake msrp 5070ti vs fake msrp 9070 xt is more expensive and not worth it.

Have a great day ICDP and smile! Ciao
 
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Well that escalated quickly...

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/radeon-rx-9070-xt-scalpers

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Who's going to be starting the 9070/9070XT owners thread then?

Appreciate that there is still a fair amount of discussion still around getting hold of a card but some of the FSR4 improvements seem fantastic, and the Sapphire cards so far seem to have some insanely well performing cooling (Pure and Nitro never exceeding 55 deg at full load?!)
 
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