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Also, Whats the script with the Gigabyte Gaming OC model? It seems to have a 3 pin connector and higher clocks but one of the MSRP models yesterday. Wonder if it has some hidden OC headroom.
 
ICDP said:
In real terms the 9070 is cheaper than a 5070 and is better on every tangible metric.
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... apart from 15+% behind on ray-tracing. And being nearly a full generation being on up-scaling quality. And AI workloads*. And traditional ray-tracing small object creation* (ie Blender). Apart from that tho...


*(that manage to fit into 12 - alright, I was stretching it for the lulz a bit with these)
 
StarShock said:
So now that the gap has massively closed with upscaling, live streaming and raytracing, what do we think the new reason people are going to use to justify paying more for an nvidia card?
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You just said it. A gap still exists, therefore Nvidia can command a premium for it (as well as for all the other gaps that exist and are still massive - PT, ray reconstruction, MFG, CUDA, RTX HDR, productivity perf. etc.). That's speaking purely on performance (and therefore relevant to informed buyers like us forum dwellers, i.e. the 1%), there's ofc also a "brand-power gap" that is just as wide but no less real for a business (involving the other 99% of the market).
 
Tinek said:
"It's Nvidia" - yes, that's enough for many people, it seems. No other reason needed.
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I was dead set on Nvidia just because my last card was Nvidia but decided to give AMD a go mainly because the Nvidia pricing is taking the Mick compared to the improvements to last Gen. I’ll see how I get on with the AMD. Worst case I’ll keep it till next gen and then move it on to my daughters PC.
 
wiggy said:
I'm so torn between doing the same, or keeping the 12gb 4070TI. What helped you decide to go AMD?
TIA
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I'm bored and this is a hobby ! It is almost totally unjustifiable. That said, there is some minor improvement, and I think FSR4 looks excellent.

I'll swap my 7800X3D for one of the 9*00X3D chips once the new ones come out and I can see some comparison between 9950/9900 and 9800
 
Conanius said:
I'm bored and this is a hobby ! It is almost totally unjustifiable. That said, there is some minor improvement, and I think FSR4 looks excellent.

I'll swap my 7800X3D for one of the 9*00X3D chips once the new ones come out and I can see some comparison between 9950/9900 and 9800
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I'd say keep on using that 7800X3D and get a 10800X3d or whatever it'lll be called.

Incremental upgrades is pointless
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Wait for the Super refresh with 3GB GDDR7 modules.A £600 RTX5070 Super 18GB based on that RTX5070TI/RTX5080 chip would be a decent card IMHO.
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Yeh, i may well wait for the 5 series refresh unless i can get a stonking deal on a 9070XT later this year.

If the 5070ti super is around 5080 performance with 18gb of ram for ~£700 that would be pretty tempting.
 
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michty_me said:
@Game I believe you ordered a Hellhound, Can you post some thoughts on it when received? It was one of my choices and may still go for it when the prices and supply settle.
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will do its being paired with a slightly older cpu i5-10400f but should be fine planning a full system update later in the year
 
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Trickle said:
... apart from 15+% behind on ray-tracing. And being nearly a full generation being on up-scaling quality. And AI workloads*. And traditional ray-tracing small object creation* (ie Blender). Apart from that tho...


*(that manage to fit into 12 - alright, I was stretching it for the lulz a bit with these)
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Does being 15% behind in heavy RT games really matter when both cards struggle to achieve much more than 30fps? The 5070FE can barely get 35fps in Alan Wake2 and the 9070 gets 27fps with DLSS/FSR upscaling enabled. Overall if the Raster is faster then the 9070 is the better buy imo.
As for FSR4, it's certainly better than DLSS-CNN and even Transformer in some case. Depends on a game by game basis.
 
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Trickle said:
... apart from 15+% behind on ray-tracing. And being nearly a full generation being on up-scaling quality. And AI workloads*. And traditional ray-tracing small object creation* (ie Blender). Apart from that tho...


*(that manage to fit into 12 - alright, I was stretching it for the lulz a bit with these)
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Tell me you haven’t read reviews without telling me you haven’t read reviews. ;)

I do agree there is work to do from AMD on FSR4 game support. But overall the 9070 beats the 5070 in RT at 4K and at 1440p it’s basically a tie.

Though I suppose it depends on the game suite.

 
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