new pc budget £5000

[PAULRYAN52]

hi, I'm looking to buy a new pc soon and would like some advice if the following is good for the price, main use is gaming and general use,

Case Antec Flux PRO
MB Gigabyte X870E Aorus Master
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D
CPU Cooler Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420
RAM Corsair VENGEANCE Grey 32GB 6000MHz
SSD Samsung 990 PRO 2TB
GPU Gigabyte Aorus 5090 Xtreme Waterforce
PSU Antec HCG1200 Pro Platinum

budget is £5000, monitor res 1440p 360hz

 

[Kithran]

Despite lots of people saying 32 GB is enough memory for a gaming PC I can't help thinking people should go for at least 64 GB _if_ they are going for a graphics card that has 32 GB of graphics memory.

 

[Craig_d1]

Is this a prebuild you're going for? the waterforce 5090 i linked at the bottom so yo'll need to to connect that up rad with reservoire and pump etc

It's all high top end stuff....saying whether good for the price is open for debate though as paying £3k+ for a gpu is never great vlaue, esp as the fe is £1k less...

you could probably shave a bit getting a slightly cheaper mobo, going for sliightly cheaper m.2, but seeing cost of the £700 cpu and a £3k gpu, not going to make much of a difference...I don't think really needed upless goig for niche game, but seeing as everything else is overkill, I'd plumb for 64gb 6000C30 ram

if just gaming, I'd just go 9800x3d.


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Antec Flux PRO Full Tower Case - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-03468) = £169.99
• 1 x Antec HCG 1200 Pro Platinum 1200W ATX3.1 Full modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-ATC-02747) = £209.99
• 1 x B Grade Gigabyte X870E Aorus Master (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: BG-MOT-GIG-03315) = £479.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D Sixteen Core 5.70GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-04501) = £699.95
• 1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer III High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 420mm (SKU: COO-ARC-01994) = £82.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB EXPO (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02786) = £98.99
• 1 x Samsung 990 Pro 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe 1.3c Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-24R-SA) = £159.94

Total: £1,901.84 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

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[PAULRYAN52]

its not the wb it's the aio gpu, advice noted and taken about the ram, would the 5080 be ok for my res, any other advice regarding changing parts for very similar performance

 

[hornetstinger]

hi, I'm looking to buy a new pc soon and would like some advice if the following is good for the price, main use is gaming and general use,

Case Antec Flux PRO
MB Gigabyte X870E Aorus Master
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D
CPU Cooler Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420
RAM Corsair VENGEANCE Grey 32GB 6000MHz
SSD Samsung 990 PRO 2TB
GPU Gigabyte Aorus 5090 Xtreme Waterforce
PSU Antec HCG1200 Pro Platinum

budget is £5000, monitor res 1440p 360hz

You don't need to spend £5000 that is nuts.

But things to consider, 32GB is minimum but another options is 48GB.
Only 2TB? What about a regular spinning HDD for mass storage?
Sound system? Keyboard, mouse, game controller etc

 

[Tetras]

would the 5080 be ok for my res

Not the res that is the issue, the refresh rate is.

I mean, a 4070/5070 can do 1440p, but not at 360 Hz / FPS

If you're happy with modest FPS then I'd just get a 9070 XT, much cheaper than a 5080/5090 and plenty capable at 1440p.

any other advice regarding changing parts for very similar performance

It depends what you mean by 'performance'.

A £200 B650E or X870 motherboard will give you the same performance in games as the £500 X870E Aorus Master. There's only two reasons motherboards lose performance in games, 1. a VRM that is too weak for the CPU and 2. PCI-E gen (though the loss on a 5090 is small with PCI-E 4.0, just a few percent). The AM5 CPUs are very modest on power, so only the very lowest-end boards (e.g. sub £100) are likely to throttle when gaming.

If you get a 9800X3D, then a £35 peerless assassin is capable of cooling it. In TPU's review it used under 100 watts on average in apps and games, which is well within the comfortable range of a decent tower cooler.

I agree with the other thoughts about RAM too, for a high-end system just get 64GB or 96GB.

 

[Colapops]

5k for a PC to game at 1440p? yeah seems good idea.

 

[PAULRYAN52]

ok so 64gb ram, 9800x3d and possibly lower tier mobo, i would like to stick to nvidia, cooler would prefer aio, it's going to be pre built from a competitor as they aren't too far from where I live and I can just drop it off in person if needed

 

[AMDPower]

I would not buy a 5090 for 1440p gaming, most people cant discern the difference between 120 and 240 let alone 360mhz. Buy a 9070xt or 5080 at worst, they would both do 14400 gaming easily unless you need 360mhz because you are some kind of competitive gamer?

save yourself £2500 and buy the 9070xt.

 

[Webster]

The 5080 version of that model gpu has been going for £1400 odd, whilst not MSRP, it didn't seem terrible for having an aio compared to the models with the usual air coolers.

 

[PAULRYAN52]

just thought of something, if I upgraded to 4k monitor in future would i need 5090

 

[Tetras]

just thought of something, if I upgraded to 4k monitor in future would i need 5090

Can you clarify, what kind of gamer are you exactly? Or at least, what is your FPS target?

 

[PAULRYAN52]

I'm no competitive gamer and play single player games like football manager, euro truck sim 2, fc25

 

[Craig_d1]

I'm no competitive gamer and play single player games like football manager, euro truck sim 2, fc25

9070XT....5070ti if you must go nvidia but atm you'll be paying £200 more for the privilige(not worth it imho..and I've just come from nvidia to amd for the 1st time), 32gb ram, 9800x3d is more than enough for 1440p gaming, esp single player games where high fps isn't needed so much. I'm running 9070xt with 32gb and 76800x3d and b650e mobo, outputting to 4k with everything set to highest level for eye candy...

 

[PAULRYAN52]

ok so few changes, what peoples opinions

Antec Flux PRO
Gigabyte AMD X870 AORUS ELITE WiFi7
AMD Ryzen 9 9800X3D
Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420
Corsair VENGEANCE Black 32GB 6000MHz 28 CAS
Samsung 990 PRO 2TB
Gigabyte AORUS RX 9070 XT ELITE
Antec HCG1200 Pro Platinum

 

[Craig_d1]

add a 9070xt such as nitro+ for £700, and you've got a great 1440p.put a different case on as alternative..can save some money going msrp 9070xt, but base price is up at mo, might as well go more premium..the nitro+ has the 6x2 connector and cables can be hidden, giving you a clean look too, though i like the pulse also as a msrp card, and seeing as you have no rgb, will keep to that look too
you can go aio..I've got an arctic air cooler in my system but just putting 360aio in ther as £77..
1000w psu overkill but gives you headroom for future gpu upgrades

so with a 9070xt you're £2k, go msrp and something like a peerless assasin aio or artic 36 freezer, and you're under

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite WIFI7 (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03856) = £220.00
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £488.98
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB EXPO (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02786) = £98.99
• 1 x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRU-01090) = £127.99
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 1000W 80PLUS Platinum ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02521) = £128.99
• 1 x UK Mains Plug with 13A Fuse to IEC C13 Socket Lead, 10A, 2m (SKU: ACC-OCS-01709) = £0.00
• 1 x Fractal Design North XL Full Tower Charcoal Black Case (SKU: CAS-FTL-02372) = £169.99
• 1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer III High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-ARC-01991) = £77.00

Total: £1,323.92 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

 

[Craig_d1]

ok so few changes, what peoples opinions

Antec Flux PRO
Gigabyte AMD X870 AORUS ELITE WiFi7
AMD Ryzen 9 9800X3D
Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420
Corsair VENGEANCE Black 32GB 6000MHz 28 CAS
Samsung 990 PRO 2TB
Gigabyte AORUS RX 9070 XT ELITE
Antec HCG1200 Pro Platinum

psu massive overkill now..
drop to b850 mobo..wont make any difference in gaming
9800x3d you can cool with a arctic 240mm aio..420 overkill but guess is £83 so good value as aio's go
nothing wrong with 6000c28 ram..tighter the timings the better and 6000 speed sweet spot for amd, but 30 to 28 timing was adding £40 which isn't worth it, esp as you have a x3d cpu
9800x3d best value/fastest gaming cpou you can get seeing as the 9950x3d is basically same speed but a lot more expensive, and you weont need the extra cores for general pc stuff

I'd be careful with that particular 9070XT card...one it's £750 which is extravagant, only the asus tuf 9070xt being more expensive, but couple of owners have said the fans make some noise when the stop, which is offputting..think it was that card..I'll have to check again

 

[PAULRYAN52]

site I'm purchasing from doesn't sell phantek, what psu power should I be looking at, 850w or 1000w

 

[PAULRYAN52]

ok updated list, opinions please

Case Antec Flux PRO
MB Gigabyte AMD B850 AORUS ELITE
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 9800X3D
CPU Cooler Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420
RAM Corsair VENGEANCE Black 32GB 6000MHz 28 CAS
SSD Crucial T500 2TB
GPU Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT NITRO+
PSU be quiet! Power Zone 2 850

 

[mickyflinn]

site I'm purchasing from doesn't sell phantek, what psu power should I be looking at, 850w or 1000w

I'm a great believer in getting a higher spec PSU than you need ATM as it will give you room for future upgrades..

1000w for a high end pc minimum hopefully last you a full 10 years of upgrades.