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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

UKGigaProb said:
Since I got my 5090 FE over a month ago all I have on most games are micro stutters, I have a thread open on Nvidia forums and someone I am working with also as one open, the drivers are rubbish, when using V-Sync in the control panel is broken, but after a lot of back and forth with logs etc…, with the driver team we seem to be making progress as now it’s an open issue.

We mentioned this also as Avowed as this problem, no frame cap and full utilisation and using only 300w and max frame rate 90fps, of course can use MFG, but you get the point.

Hopefully all this gets better in the next few drivers as before selling my 4090 everything was fine on that, no micro stutters etc…
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Not sure if you're on Windows 11 or not but if you are then turn VBS off as it is bugged when it comes to 9800X3D's. I was getting immense stuttering in Spiderman Remastered and various other games because of it.

Someone on the Steam forum said the fix was turning VBS off if you have an X3D CPU, Turned virtualisation off in the bios, Tamper Protection off in the security centre and ran "bcdedit /set hypervisorlaunchtype off" with CMD as admin, Rebooted and hey presto, Welcome to the land of smooth butter :D
 
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Dicehunter said:
Not sure if you're on Windows 11 or not but if you are then turn VBS off as it is bugged when it comes to 9800X3D's. I was getting immense stuttering in Spiderman Remastered and various other games because of it.

Someone on the Steam forum said the fix was turning VBS off if you have an X3D CPU, Turned virtualisation off in the bios, Tamper Protection off in the security centre and ran "bcdedit /set hypervisorlaunchtype off" with CMD as admin, Rebooted and hey presto, Welcome to the land of smooth butter :D
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That's a horrible advice, similar to "my flat door is squeaking, so I removed the lock and then whole door - problem solved!". You are turning off all modern Windows protection mechanisms and inviting to get all your credentials stolen (possibly already happened) by infostealers or other malware infections. These things are hidden even in steam games these days (already few cases confirmed) and it takes a split of a second for them to quietly get all your saved credentials when opened like this. Just fix your Windows people (drivers and bios and updates included), this isn't problem with the CPU itself! And I'm saying that from practice.
 
TNA said:
Ah, a demo. Makes sense. Any full games?
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One of the mods in the workshop for Cities Skylines 2 contained a virus and they didn't realise for the best part of a week
I think there was a small Indy game which did as well but I can't remember for sure
 
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no_1_dave said:
One of the mods in the workshop for Cities Skylines 2 contained a virus and they didn't realise for the best part of a week
I think there was a small Indy game which did as well but I can't remember for sure
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There's pcsecuritychannel on YouTube that also shown few examples with analysis. And those are just the ones that people found so far. The thing with infostealers is that they are very hard to detect as they look like innocent software.
The other issues are with bit older but vulnerable drivers - they are whql certified and genuine but have known vulnerabilities that give access to full system kernel and with that malware can do whatever it wants. Said drivers were patched but what stops threat actor embedding the older version with their malware and using it? Well, Windows 11 has now option to block known vulnerable drivers but people love to turn that off too. :/

The point is, one can get malware from genuine sources these days, so the excuse of "I know what I'm doing" is really just very outdated. And since infostealers leave no trace and no visible symptoms, you won't even know you had it.
 
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Tinek said:
That's a horrible advice, similar to "my flat door is squeaking, so I removed the lock and then whole door - problem solved!". You are turning off all modern Windows protection mechanisms and inviting to get all your credentials stolen (possibly already happened) by infostealers or other malware infections.
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Keeping VBS on doesn't protect you from Steam games/mods with viruses in them.
 
SuperElectric said:
Keeping VBS on doesn't protect you from Steam games/mods with viruses in them.
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"Putting on seatbelts doesn't protect you from death in accident." - no security is perfect, turning pretty much everything off (post mentioned much more than just vbs) is not a smart move, especially that on modern CPU there's close to 0 performance hit as tested by hub and other (if it's properly updated Windows that is).
 
Tinek said:
That's a horrible advice, similar to "my flat door is squeaking, so I removed the lock and then whole door - problem solved!". You are turning off all modern Windows protection mechanisms and inviting to get all your credentials stolen (possibly already happened) by infostealers or other malware infections. These things are hidden even in steam games these days (already few cases confirmed) and it takes a split of a second for them to quietly get all your saved credentials when opened like this. Just fix your Windows people (drivers and bios and updates included), this isn't problem with the CPU itself! And I'm saying that from practice.
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Extreme hyperbole much ? VBS isn't the be all and end all of security.

I never said it was a problem with the CPU, It's a problem with Windows, MS needs to update VBS as it causes micro stutters in various games on 9000X3D based systems.

It's very repeatable and there's a lot of people on the Steam forums who have confirmed it. If I turn VBS back on right now I get micro stutters.

Grim5 said:
5070ti = 720p RT gpu

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Sad thing is the hardware itself is good but optimisation these days seems to be thrown out the window as it costs money, Devs seem to prefer relying on upscaling and frame gen.
 
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Absolutely Clueless said:
That's a good point re the 5080 VRAM issue, I keep forgetting that. Since I posted my comment, a used 4090 FE sold for £2k. Absolute madness. I really need to get a 5090 and sell my 4090 FE if this continues :D
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I'm thinking the same thing, was going to stick with the 4090 but tempted to sell and go 5090 soonish.
 
GoRedwings19 said:
Icue? Oh god where do I begin. Better known as the AIO killer during software updates. The amount of h150i's it has bricked you would not believe.

Years ago Corsair use to not only be a premium brand but with top notch customer support in the shape of Yellowbeard. When I look back Corsair were synomous with the best ram and fastest ram with the price to match. You paid a heavy price but you got quality and if you wanted the fastest ram Corsair were at the forefront.

Now they want to be one of those do it all peripheral manufacturers problem is that the Corsair I grew up sold out to multi conglomerate years ago now adhering to shareholders whims. They use to innovate and and I thought I would never leave the brand. Now they are a shadow of their former self. Everyone nows about Asus tax but the other company which is known for charging expensive prices is Corsair tax especially if it is in white like Asus.

For over 20 years I was a Corsair customer/fan. This last build I refused to use any corsair product as a matter of personal principle. If people want to use their products good on them, I am sure they will be happy with it.

I rather use a palit gamerock 5090 than use another corsair product....

oh wait maybe not that far but you get the idea :P
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It bricked my H110i too, still super angry with Corsair about this. Never buying anything from Corsair again.
 
Absolutely Clueless said:
That's a good point re the 5080 VRAM issue, I keep forgetting that. Since I posted my comment, a used 4090 FE sold for £2k. Absolute madness. I really need to get a 5090 and sell my 4090 FE if this continues :D
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Jacky60 said:
I'm thinking the same thing, was going to stick with the 4090 but tempted to sell and go 5090 soonish.
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That's the only reason I upgraded. I was happy with my 4090 but it seemed a no brainer (for the FE at least), especially considering that when the 60 series comes out the 5090 will be worth considerably more than a 4090
 
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Dicehunter said:
Extreme hyperbole much ? VBS isn't the be all and end all of security.
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Absolutely no hyperbole. But since it's not a thread for it, I'm not going to elaborate further - there are enough materials out there to do proper research into it. I will just add that vbs and temper protection - 2 very different things.
 
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Absolutely Clueless said:
Stop it. You’re tempting me even more
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It is definitely worth it for the FE, I agree.
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If you have the means to then do it, Won't be a big perf jump but it's a new shiny :D
 
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