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China just announced new tarrifs on us of 125%.
please use US and not us... I was thinking what have we done? lol

I don't think the orange one understands, 100% of zero is zero... 125% of zero is still zero...

The people in china don't need US imports, the ones that want them are rich enough to go aboard to purchase them.. lets not forget it the large black market in china.

It's the American's that are going to suffer when they discover all those little **** products that they use on a daily bases all shot up in price.
 
Trump's now talking about fentanyl coming from China, that's a new part to his narrative , I wonder if this is to give them a way to climb down a little without any big deals being done. China says it'll work to stop fentanyl, Trump says that's a win, we are working with China , de-esculates tariffs. Who knows ...
Anyway after watching the markets with my cash ISA sat temporarily waiting to catch a rally in Stocks and shares ISA and successfully missing every one, today I'm just going to shove half it in SNP 500 ACC from Vanguard the other half in an equally weighted all world and look at it again in 10 years, way less stressful. So long as the world population keeps going up, I'll be up.
 
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The tariffs between China and US are now at a level where the markets won’t care anymore. It’s the end game they will be looking for. China is also asking the EU to push back against the US which they won’t as they want a trade deal as well. US tax cuts will help later but at what point do the Fed step in, bond markets aren’t looking good still.
 
Lol I got a mate who parks on my property rather than hire a parking space in town, I recently told him I was gonna add a tariff to it.... We are funny guys.
 
Lol I got a mate who parks on my property rather than hire a parking space in town, I recently told him I was gonna add a tariff to it.... We are funny guys.
Start at 20%, when he whinges knock it down to 10% and tell him he's got a great deal. If he still whinges put it up again.
 
please use US and not us... I was thinking what have we done? lol

I don't think the orange one understands, 100% of zero is zero... 125% of zero is still zero...

The people in china don't need US imports, the ones that want them are rich enough to go aboard to purchase them.. lets not forget it the large black market in china.

It's the American's that are going to suffer when they discover all those little **** products that they use on a daily bases all shot up in price.

If not taking sides it will be hilarious if China waits out his 4 years and doesn't move an inch.

Nothing to admire in seeing damn near everyone else getting on the phone or the plane to beg and be publicly mocked that they're kissing his ass.

EU got halfway there, plenty of individual whinging but at least the bloc has the strength to organise counter tariffs and not fold instantly.

And then there's us, knowing we have no leverage at all so we didn't say a word.
 
If not taking sides it will be hilarious if China waits out his 4 years and doesn't move an inch.

Nothing to admire in seeing damn near everyone else getting on the phone or the plane to beg and be publicly mocked that they're kissing his ass.

EU got halfway there, plenty of individual whinging but at least the bloc has the strength to organise counter tariffs and not fold instantly.

And then there's us, knowing we have no leverage at all so we didn't say a word.

Naa, we just aren't panicking like the others.

It's only really our car industry which is losing out, but it's foreign owned and in decline anyway, same with steel. All this is benefitting the UK defence industry, which is more important and worth way more to the economy. That's where the real focus for government is at the moment, but of course those deals aren't all made public
 
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If not taking sides it will be hilarious if China waits out his 4 years and doesn't move an inch.

Nothing to admire in seeing damn near everyone else getting on the phone or the plane to beg and be publicly mocked that they're kissing his ass.

EU got halfway there, plenty of individual whinging but at least the bloc has the strength to organise counter tariffs and not fold instantly.

And then there's us, knowing we have no leverage at all so we didn't say a word.

Oh..,. I'm taking a side on this.. lol
China holds $761bn in US bonds.. why do you think the US bond market is acting funny.
Does anyone trust the orange one to pay the interest in the bonds?
 
The US is considering delisting Chinese public companies from their stockmarkets. It's not obvious (on T212) that BYD and Blue Hat might be affected.
 
The US is considering delisting Chinese public companies from their stockmarkets. It's not obvious (on T212) that BYD and Blue Hat might be affected.

Probably not a terrible thing. It's well known that the Chinese manipulate the crap out of the market.
 
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Oh..,. I'm taking a side on this.. lol
China holds $761bn in US bonds.. why do you think the US bond market is acting funny.
Does anyone trust the orange one to pay the interest in the bonds?
If the US ever tried a technical default or the credible threat was there do you think yields would be at 4.4%?

China would be selling bonds to pressure Trump.because he can't run a huge deficit with high yields and everyone knows it. We have not seen a systemic risk issue. (Yet. Of course you this afternoon when Trump starts tweeting things could change :cry:)
 
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If the US ever tried a technical default or the credible threat was there do you think yields would be at 4.4%?

China would be selling bonds to pressure Trump.because he can't run a huge deficit with high yields and everyone knows it. We have not seen a systemic risk issue. (Yet. Of course you this afternoon when Trump starts tweeting things could change :cry:)
Trump dollars and Trump bonds coming soon to a FX near you...
 
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