Predator: Badlands

Caracus2k said:
It's quite amazing how rubbish the predators face looks in that trailer compared to the original from decades ago...



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Isn't it meant to be some sort of outcast in this film or am I thinking of another Predator thing?

IIRC in the Dark Horse comics and books there are a lot of different groups of Predators from different clans etc and their look varies a fair bit depending on age, clan, and status with certain features, ornamentation and equipment changing as they move up the ranks and do hunts of different creatures. IIRC the different clans/groups also sometimes fight with each other.

In the trailer near the end when it's crying out and opens it's mouth it's much closer in design around the mouth to the original, so my guess is it's a young one possibly from a different clan and may not have grown as much (it looks slimmer as well), in a lot of animals including humans there are various parts of the body that never really stop changing resulting in fairly significant changes in appearance (nose and ears), whilst in some animals some bits never stop growing.

So yeah I'm not a massive fan of that specific look, but it does remind me a lot of some of the predators as depicted in various other formats, especially those from competing clans/groups and the younger ones.
IIRC in the books there is the strong suggestion (if not outright statement) that different Predator groups have their own hunting grounds, and those we've seen in the previous Earth based films are from one group as the Earth is one of theirs but different groups have been encountered on more distant planets.
I might need to dig out my (very hefty) Alien Graphic novels from about 10-15 years ago (the complete Fire & Stone etc) as from memory they specifically show a wide variety of predators without their masks.

I'm actually looking forward to this film, as I really enjoyed Prey.
 
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Columbo said:
Wtf were they thinking with that Predator...also the Aliens vs Predator thing may hold water, one of the vehicles in the background has a Weyland Yutani logo on it..

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It looks like Elle's character is going to be a synthetic.

Also, is it just me or does the new predator look a bit like Matt Smith?
 
Columbo said:
Deffo synthetic...look at her eyes. The Weyland logo is there as well.

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Dodgy predator design aside, I can get behind this tbh. A synthetic facing off against a Predator could be interesting if handled right, I'd assume they'd (potentially) be better equipped at facing one than a human anyway.
 
Gray2233 said:
Dodgy predator design aside, I can get behind this tbh. A synthetic facing off against a Predator could be interesting if handled right, I'd assume they'd (potentially) be better equipped at facing one than a human anyway.
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I'm with you, I wont pretend that I wont be in the cinema the first weekend watching it because I will be, the wife will drag me anyway :D
As someone that loved Prometheus and Covenant as well, my standards and rose tinting of my glasses when it comes anything Alien or Predator generally clouds my judgement anyway!
 
Midnight's Edge allegedly have some inside info that confirms that the synthetic and the young Predator (different species to the OG) will team up. And that there's a 10-year plan to link The Alien and Predator universes bit this time "do it right".
It'll all come down to how good the film is.
 
Caracus2k said:
It's quite amazing how rubbish the predators face looks in that trailer compared to the original from decades ago...



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For me it's not the difference in the look, which as others have said could be different species/clans of predator, or different age etc; it's more that the new one looks like a cheapo rubber mask that one might wear for halloween, and the original looks like a solid, living, breathing creature!
 
I`m beginning to wonder whether this Predator is half human because in the trailer it certainly does not run/move like a Predator but it is a terrible mask. The original masks worked really well because when the Predator roared it suspended your belief that it was actually an actor in a mask as the mouth and teeth look fleshy and very real and nothing like a human mouth.
 
varkanoid said:
I`m beginning to wonder whether this Predator is half human because in the trailer it certainly does not run/move like a Predator but it is a terrible mask. The original masks worked really well because when the Predator roared it suspended your belief that it was actually an actor in a mask as the mouth and teeth look fleshy and very real and nothing like a human mouth.
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I think in the comics there is something about some predators deliberately merge/adjust their dna to give them aspects of prey that have repeatedly beaten the hunt in order to improve the line, but they're basically outcast/looked down on by the others because it's cheating and going against the ethos of the hunt being to prove the predator can defeat the prey with limits on what weapons/tech are used.

In the films so far we've only really seen predators from one background/group when they have multiple groups across many home planets, so basically we've generally seen the great white hunters from British Colonial days out to bag a lion or an elephant, whilst the books/comics have spent a lot more time building the background including from memory clashes between groups of them from different planetary bases.
 
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varkanoid said:
I`m beginning to wonder whether this Predator is half human because in the trailer it certainly does not run/move like a Predator but it is a terrible mask. The original masks worked really well because when the Predator roared it suspended your belief that it was actually an actor in a mask as the mouth and teeth look fleshy and very real and nothing like a human mouth.
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Its supposed to be because he is young so has not grown full dreds, has a thinner face etc etc Also apparently he is supposed to be the good guy that the audince is rooting for in this one. (Hence the more human look)
 
can't remember anything about the DNA thing from the comics i read, i thought it was the alien that took on aspects of the host it grew in.
as for the face, the sheer quality of Stan Winston aside, it just looks....unfinished. it should be sheened to give it the reptilian look as per the original. and the dreads shouldn't start on the top of the head like that, IMO.
 
Werewolf said:
I think in the comics there is something about some predators deliberately merge/adjust their dna to give them aspects of prey that have repeatedly beaten the hunt in order to improve the line, but they're basically outcast/looked down on by the others because it's cheating and going against the ethos of the hunt being to prove the predator can defeat the prey with limits on what weapons/tech are used.

In the films so far we've only really seen predators from one background/group when they have multiple groups across many home planets, so basically we've generally seen the great white hunters from British Colonial days out to bag a lion or an elephant, whilst the books/comics have spent a lot more time building the background including from memory clashes between groups of them from different planetary bases.
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I find that more palatable than the "it's a female predator" ideas going around.

In the existing lore/extended material in the books and graphic novels that's a million miles from reality from what I remember. Female Yautja (aka Predators) were huge and more or less in charge, it was the males that went out to hunt and the most successful gained mating rights. I actually kinda like that idea, so I'm really interested in where they're trying to go with this because if they turn it into a female buddy cop movie I'm out.
 
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