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Maundie said:
but as pointed out the fanbase are poison so one poor game could see him ostracised big time
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They booed their Madrid-born, best-ever goalie out the door in Casillas, they booed Ronaldo on the regular when his form dipped as father time crept in, they're booing arguably the greatest ever manager in the the history of the sport out of their club now.

They'll have no issue booing an English mercenary out of the squad as soon as a blunder costs them an El Clasico dumps them out of a CDR. I expect the reality of going from a club hero to just another name in the squad to hit quite quickly, but then he'll open his wages and realise he's made the right decision all the same.
 
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Thekwango said:
bit harsh calling the lad a mercenary!
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Honestly some of our fans I don’t get I’ve seen him called a rat, mercenary and more on twitter and other forums.

Quite sad really. Enjoy him for what he did which was plenty!

One man club days are long gone and have been for many many years.
 
Mark1989 said:
Honestly some of our fans I don’t get I’ve seen him called a rat, mercenary and more on twitter and other forums.

Quite sad really. Enjoy him for what he did which was plenty!

One man club days are long gone and have been for many many years.
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To be fair, your entire club is full of rats :p :o
(MUFC are no different)

And as you say, most players are mercenaries these days, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
 
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I don’t see it as merc behaviour. Footballs for me are ALL over paid even when your as low as 40k a week

Them going for more money is no different to us normal folk wanting more money and moving jobs
 
Most players are mercenaries but some are bigger than others.

John Duran going to Saudi, Oscar going to China (remember him?) or any players who are in the peak of their career going to Saudi, is a stronger case of being a merc than TAA.

Going to RM and Barca has always been traditionally, and even now, what a lot of player strives for, even from someone who plays for the big 6 in England. Not to mention he has won everything now in England, the chance to win a different trophy and experience another culture is perfectly justified.

It's just an employment contract, which he has fulfilled; he owes Liverpool nothing, he won everything with them, or for them, he paid them back for their time and investment with those trophies and performances.
 
I get it, why would he leave 10m on the table just to sign a contract and leave anyway so they get a transfer fee. If he'd turned out to be a poor PL player the club wouldn't have done him favours to make sure he was secure for the rest of his life, they would've sold him on asap. It's horrible when it happens but I understand the player has to look after their own futures.

To be honest it's not like his assist and goals stats are trending in the right direction, it would've been great to rinse another 100m out of Madrid but I think the side will get over losing him fast enough.
 
Mark1989 said:
Honestly some of our fans I don’t get I’ve seen him called a rat, mercenary and more on twitter and other forums.

Quite sad really. Enjoy him for what he did which was plenty!

One man club days are long gone and have been for many many years.
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Just to be clear, I'm not a supporter.

Mercenary is an appropriate term - someone who works for the highest bidder, in this case at the first opportunity. I suppose it has a far more negative connotation in sport than it should, but he's just a bloke doing a job and going where he will get the most money... I absolutely don't blame him.

The only thing he's done wrong IMO is media-dodge all season even though he was vice-captain.
 
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I don't even think that's the case. There's probably a good chance he's get a higher salary elsewhere but playing for Real in one of the best cities in the world is something i don't think many players would pass up. He seems to have been pretty clear on his desire to go there for a while now aswell, so it's not like he's been messing the club around, and i'm not sure why he's jeapordise a dream move by signing a contract where he might not then get sold.
 
Martynt74 said:
I don't even think that's the case. There's probably a good chance he's get a higher salary elsewhere but playing for Real in one of the best cities in the world is something i don't think many players would pass up. He seems to have been pretty clear on his desire to go there for a while now aswell, so it's not like he's been messing the club around, and i'm not sure why he's jeapordise a dream move by signing a contract where he might not then get sold.
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Doesn't every player want to play for Real or Barca?
 
Remember that quick freekick vs Barca in that incredible comeback and then went on to win the CL. Any bitter Liverpool fans should remember that (and many more moments like that).

It's not like he got paid and didn't play well or didn't play at all. He played frequently and he played well. What more can you ask for a player when they are under contract?
 
Honestly calling a player a mercenary when he's been at a club 20 years, won everything with the club, has a chance play for Real before retirement.....and he's leaving as a premiership champ.

It's basically the best example of non-mercenary behaviour you could imagine, beyond staying at one club your entire career.
 
Raymond Lin said:
By fulfilling the contract terms that he signed and leaves the club as Premier League Champions.
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I didn't dispute that, I disputed how running your contract down, leaving on a free for your own financial gain was the most non-mercenary behaviour possible.

This deal was in the making long ago. No player at Trent's stage of his career and of his level goes into the final year of their contract by chance. If he wanted to stay he'd have signed long ago and if he was open to leaving 12 months ago then he'd have been sold. Neither happened because Trent wanted to leave in this way and the reason was because it saved Real a fortune and meant he (and or his brother) would get paid a huge signing on fee.

Did he fulfil his contract? Yes. Did he engineer his departure in a way for his own financial benefit? Yes.
 
You call it "running down his contract", it is just a negative way of saying "he fulfilled his contract".

"Leaving on free for your own financial gain"

That's his right, we can't deny his right. When he is a free agent and can do what he wants. Any work is a financial gain. Period. We all work for financial gain. You can't deny him a bigger pay cheque when he is no longer your player. He is not under contract anymore. Liverpool and their fans don't own him and he doesn't owe Liverpool anything. When he is/was under contract, he performed his duties, and he did it well. Now people are mad at him doing something when he is not your player anymore. It's not like he is Phil Jones!

Contract done. Full stop. Finished. Goodbye.

That should be the end of it, there is a whole lawsuit that happened with this, we both know that. This kind of thinking is so pre-Bosman, are we not over that yet?
 
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Raymond Lin said:
You call it "running down his contract", it is just a negative way of saying "he fulfilled his contract".

"Leaving on free for your own financial gain"

That's his right, we can't deny his right. When he is a free agent and can do what he wants. Any work is a financial gain. Period. We all work for financial gain. You can't deny him a bigger pay cheque when he is no longer your player. He is not under contract anymore. Liverpool and their fans don't own him and he doesn't owe Liverpool anything. When he is/was under contract, her performed his duties, and he did it well. Now people are mad at him doing something when he is not your player anymore. It's not like he is Phil Jones!

Contract done. Full stop. Finished. Goodbye.

That should be the end of it, there is a whole lawsuit that happened with this, we both know that. This kind of thinking is so pre-Bosman, are we not over that yet?
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I'm not sure what any of this has to do with my post :confused:

I disputed the point made by mid_gen that Trent has acted in the least mercenary way possible. That's quite clearly not true. Whether it's his right or not, Trent has decided to leave in a way that earns him the most money. How can that possibly be the least mercenary way possible?

Yes, it's his right and supporters are within their rights to think he's a mercenary for doing that.
 
Folks being a bit weird over this - and by that I don't mean Liverpool fans. (Except Mark acting like people shouldn't be arsed about him leaving)

Its an emotional sport/hobby you follow - not a business transaction. Wanting people to treat all players transactionally when they choose to leave (along with misleading and ultimately taunting the fans in the process as a Vice Captain) is odd and the sport would be very boring if so, getting invested in your team and players is fun.

When non-local players do this in their prime to move to similar level clubs/rivals its always a bitter one to swallow and people unsurprisingly don't like it. It's amplified given the length of time with the club, being from the city and the pre-meditated nature of it whilst trying their best to obscure it.
 
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