Poll: Official 2025 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread - Circuit de Monaco - Race 8/24

Rate the 3A race out of ten

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Scam said:
The is my thoughts on it too. Not to mention all of the arguments against it can apply in some percentage to a lot of other tracks. No point complaining about cars unable to overtake when that applies to a lot of other circuits, even more where they can only overtake due to drs.

But hey, it occurred to me earlier that the Lando doubters have gone awfully quiet haven’t they. Stealing pole away from Leclerc in a Ferrari that was looking decent, away from Piastri who was brimming in confidence, and of course the other guy in the RB too. Has it even been said in the thread yet? Flippin’ good job Lando… He deserves the praise, hopefully it can continue into this weekend.
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Consistency is key here. Back in 2021 season the sheer consistency at the highest level by Max and Lewis was incredible. Max still has the consistency, Lewis seemingly has lost it. Norris and Oscar haven’t shown they have it consistently for me. Hopefully they both do given time.

Looking at the current grid no one else seems to have rock solid consistency at the highest level apart from Max. I’m not a Max fan but that doesn’t stop me recognising excellence.
 
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given you can't overtake in a race here then why not just have a series of timed laps, send out the drivers in pools of 4, 15 secs apart, have to keep the gap in the warmup lap and then you get an empty track to put in your fastest lap, 3 sessions, 1/3 points for each session. Would be better than the borefest we had plus the viewers get to see cars going flat out to set their best time. Crash and you are out of the rest of the day and you forfeit any points earned over the day. Maybe have a mop up session at the end for any driver who had to stop because of a red/yellow flag that impacted their times.
 
I voted a 2 to give them credit for actually trying the 2 pitstops. I feel that was generous. You can't really fix Monaco without heavily modifying the track, which is not realistically possible.
 
Get them in simulators that are remote controlling 60% scaled versions of the cars, like they use for wind tunnel testing, then we'll see some overtaking :p
 
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I have a great respect for Wurz (he'd make a great FIA president one day), but I'm still not seeing that they'll make much difference. The 80m extension of the straight to the chicane would give just under 1 second of additional time - assuming they're travelling about 170mph. Maybe enough for a desperate divebomb, but still very easy to defend against, just stay left coming out of the tunnel. The corner is too tight for anyone to do anything around the outside, and even if they did the 'he who gets to the apex first' rule nerfs any attempts.

The reprofiling of Rascasse is a good idea, and should be done regardless, but again it's trivial to defend with no real penalty for the defender. Yes they would have to sacrifice their line in the corner and be slow off it, but the last corner is absolutely single file, so as long as you get off there clean you're fine - as we saw from the leaders 4+ seconds of the pace this weekend. The extended hairpin has the exact same problem.

F1 just needs to admit that we don't go here to actually race and be done with it.
 
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Im not sure. The 2 stop looked good on paper but wasn't, i think they'll keep that but do something like Brundle suggested with a max limit for taking the first stop. You just never know until it's tried in the real world.

They should just try stuff, year after year until we get something which gives the track some revitalisation for the next 20 years. Certainly trying to create a drs section would be very beneficial.

I'm personally not arsed, im happy to keep the track as it is. But there does seem to be some desire within the teams to try some new things.
 
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If they make the pit strategy much more contrived, they might as well just tell each car exactly when to pit and for what tyres and watch the chaos unfold.
 
Scam said:
The is my thoughts on it too. Not to mention all of the arguments against it can apply in some percentage to a lot of other tracks. No point complaining about cars unable to overtake when that applies to a lot of other circuits, even more where they can only overtake due to drs.

But hey, it occurred to me earlier that the Lando doubters have gone awfully quiet haven’t they. Stealing pole away from Leclerc in a Ferrari that was looking decent, away from Piastri who was brimming in confidence, and of course the other guy in the RB too. Has it even been said in the thread yet? Flippin’ good job Lando… He deserves the praise, hopefully it can continue into this weekend.
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My god that's two posts you've made I can totally agree with. The world is coming to an end! ;)
 
People saying that there are other dull tracks as well and why the focus on Monaco; name another track where it is as hard to overtake. Even the rubbish tracks, you can still overtake usually in at least one main spot and/or the main straight.
 
GravyMonster said:
Has there been any mention of why Lewis was so slow in the final stint? After his second stop I expected him to make use of the free air and close up to the front 4 who were being slowed by Verstappen trying to keep track position on dead tyres. He had the chance to steal a position if he could get within Max's pit window, but instead he dropped back about 15 seconds from where he came out. It made very little sense to me.
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Wasn't he still behind Hadjar on track but Hadjar was a lap down so in the dirty air? But then he would have had blue flags wouldn't he....yeah don't know then. Traffic lottery?
 
GravyMonster said:
Has there been any mention of why Lewis was so slow in the final stint? After his second stop I expected him to make use of the free air and close up to the front 4 who were being slowed by Verstappen trying to keep track position on dead tyres. He had the chance to steal a position if he could get within Max's pit window, but instead he dropped back about 15 seconds from where he came out. It made very little sense to me.
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At a guess it's a case of "why bother?". It was very clear from the antics of the Williams that even a vastly faster car can't overtake here. Why push the engine / risk a collision for zero benefit? You could see Piastri was pushing it and he very nearly crashed twice.
 
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At a guess it's a case of "why bother?". It was very clear from the antics of the Williams that even a vastly faster car can't overtake here. Why push the engine / risk a collision for zero benefit? You could see Piastri was pushing it and he very nearly crashed twice.
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He didn't need to overtake on track, he needed to be within a pitstop of Max to take a position. As he exited his pitstop that was very achievable but he fell back a long way instead.
 
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