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Intel 13th gen degradation

Not impossible but not normally - initial signs are usually crashes when games are compiling shaders, errors when compression or decompressing data or certain memory related errors/crash in some software, some people have reported audio stutters but not 100% linked to CPU degradation, when it develops more (or if you have the via oxidation problem) you'll start getting random BSODs when trying to boot into Windows.
 
A few ideas:
Run the Intel diagnostic tool (Download) which will determine if it's degradation of the CPU.
Run a full virus scan
When system is running slow, use the task manager to check CPU/memory/disk usage etc. From task manager can also check individual processes to see if something is hogging resources.
Could also check eventviewer for any errors being thrown up during the periods the system is slow.
 
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My 13900K degradation was causing out of video memory errors and crashing, especially during shader comp.
This was whilst running an undervolt which had been stable for over a year.

I had to slowly remove the undervolt, each time the errors would stop for a while, then they would come back so I would have to reduce the undervolt agan.
After a while the temps were too high due to almost no undervolt, so instead of undervolting I just capped the power at 280w in the bios

It's been working fine for the last few months, performance is the same as when I was undervolting but temps are slightly higher, not as high as not using an undervolt and it does not go high enough to cause thermal throttling.
When this stops being stable I think I will look into RMAing it, but until then this will do as I can still hit 39000+ in Cinebench R23 and I'm not getting any crashes.

Intel try to mask the problem by setting heavy limits in the bios, but this gives a lot less performance than what people paid for. For example, when I bought my CPU shortly after release I could get 38,000 in Cinebench R23 but it would thermal throttle. Setting a voltage offset I could hit 40,000 with no thermal throttling or crashing. I lose a bit from the new settings I need to use, but it's still nearly there. However, if I use the new default bios settings as recommended by Intel my score drops right down to 34,000. That's a large chunk of performance to lose just so Intel can say they've fixed their stability issues. They've basically just nerfed their CPU into oblivion to claim it's fixed.

So yea, if mine degrades any more it's going back. But it's a hassle and I plan to upgrade sometime in 2026 anyway so hopefully it holds out until then.
 
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no_1_dave said:
My 13900K degradation was causing out of video memory errors and crashing, especially during shader comp.
This was whilst running an undervolt which had been stable for over a year.

I had to slowly remove the undervolt, each time the errors would stop for a while, then they would come back so I would have to reduce the undervolt agan.
After a while the temps were too high due to almost no undervolt, so instead of undervolting I just capped the power at 280w in the bios

It's been working fine for the last few months, performance is the same as when I was undervolting but temps are slightly higher, not as high as not using an undervolt and it does not go high enough to cause thermal throttling.
When this stops being stable I think I will look into RMAing it, but until then this will do as I can still hit 39000+ in Cinebench R23 and I'm not getting any crashes.

Intel try to mask the problem by setting heavy limits in the bios, but this gives a lot less performance than what people paid for. For example, when I bought my CPU shortly after release I could get 38,000 in Cinebench R23 but it would thermal throttle. Setting a voltage offset I could hit 40,000 with no thermal throttling or crashing. I lose a bit from the new settings I need to use, but it's still nearly there. However, if I use the new default bios settings as recommended by Intel my score drops right down to 34,000. That's a large chunk of performance to lose just so Intel can say they've fixed their stability issues. They've basically just nerfed their CPU into oblivion to claim it's fixed.

So yea, if mine degrades any more it's going back. But it's a hassle and I plan to upgrade sometime in 2026 anyway so hopefully it holds out until then.
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As long as the CPU is still in warranty I would RMA it once you're upgrade is in place.

No pint holding on to a faulty CPU
 
from what i gather these only get worse and degrade exponentially
also your resell value is probably also nerfed to some degree and well unless you just won the lottery or something [id still not want to just give away my lottery winnings to a big company who sold me a duff cpu lol if i wanted to give away lottery winnings i can see far more deserving receivers]
I would personally be on that rma train
 
mark 11:11 said:
from what i gather these only get worse and degrade exponentially
also your resell value is probably also nerfed to some degree and well unless you just won the lottery or something [id still not want to just give away my lottery winnings to a big company who sold me a duff cpu lol if i wanted to give away lottery winnings i can see far more deserving receivers]
I would personally be on that rma train
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That's the thing, I would not be touching any 2nd hand 13/14th gen Intel processors as you never know what state the CPU is in
 
yeah i wouldn't suggest buying one either
I would still rma though you paid for a working fairly expensive product and unless I'm missing something this is not
what you have received.
your call obviously
sorry just realised your not the poster with the potential rma my bad sometimes having hte blanket group avatars is still throwing me lol my bad. you were actually saying the same thing as me in my defence i am blonde lol.
they might even allow you to put it in towards the upgrade maybe not But I would say the manufacturer needs to make it right. totally not my decision though as I dont have that cpu
 
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