New build PC - Upgrading from 8yr old pc

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As the title mentioned, I am looking to build a new pc to finally upgrade from my current pc which was built in 2017, so quite the leap. My current is running a 1080, a ryzen 1700x, 16gb ram (not even sure if its ddr3 or 4 at this point).

My budget is looking around £2k-2.5k max, though I'm not gunning to spend all of that for no good reason. My requirements aren't crazy high, I don't play too many games that are super demanding, mostly indies. Cyberpunk 2077 is probably the most demanding game I've played recently and it didn't do too badly on my 1080, I would however like the option to play more demanding games if I want to.
My main aim for performance improvements is productivity, again not super high but still higher than my gaming requirements. I'm an artist, I often work with very large canvases and many layers, and I often have huge issues with my program (clip studio paint) lagging, freezing, taking many minutes to save at this point as my work becomes larger and more complex.
As far as I'm aware clip studio benefits most from CPU and RAM, unless using the 3D features (which I don't really) then it doesn't seem to use GPU at all.

A few notes:

1: I'm unfortunately locked into needing Nvidia, specifically for CUDA, as much as I'd like a 5080 or 90 those are just too much and probably overkill coming from a 1080, so I'm thinking a 5070ti (probably Palit).

2: I want 64gb ram minimum. I know there is some benefit between AMD processors (I'd like to stay AMD as they are killing it lately) and ram but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know which goes best together or what timings/mhz/whatever is best right now.

3: I'm having the pc built by the overclockers team, not building it myself, I just can't be arsed with that, so I'm factoring in the build fee into my budget, whatever that may be these days.

4: I'm probably going to move my storage from my old pc to the new one since those have all my important files on, I wouldn't mind a case recommendation that makes installing HDDs easy if possible.

5: I do not want any watercooling, air only please.

6: I have 3 monitors, without moving my desk to get to the back of my pc I believe 2 are display port and one is hdmi, I'm assuming any modern gpu is going to be able to handle those though.

7: I won't need an OS included.

I think that is it, if I think of anything else I'll add it. Thanks in advance, let me know if I should provide any other info if it helps.
 
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Thank you for the recommendation!

A couple of adds:

I wasn't too bothered about the case in general until I randomly came across this one and fell in love, obviously a lot more expensive than the lian li one but I might just try to justify it lol: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/hyte...r-atx-case-strawberry-milk-cas-hyt-03188.html

If I were to get that case, I'm not sure if it would be worth kitting all the fan spaces out since it can take 10 of them. I guess I would be looking for a few triple packs, probably with LED so I can add to the colour scheme, I don't know what brands are worth going with though so any recommendation there would be appreciated.

As Tamzzy mentioned, CSP doesn't use multicore very well but I'm worried about other programs that might, video editing for example, is it a huge difference in productivity between the variants? I was tempted to drop down to the cheaper 5070ti but up to the ryzen 9950x instead, but I'm not sure how much difference it would make.

CSP doesn't make use of multicore very well, so 9800X3D is the correct choice here
Yeah I believe I heard that somewhere, however while I don't need to worry about that for CSP, I am worried about needing it for other programs I sometimes use or may use in the future (video editing, perhaps even 3D work etc). I'm not sure how much of a hit to productivity I would take using an x3D variant in this case.
 
I am worried about needing it for other programs I sometimes use or may use in the future (video editing, perhaps even 3D work etc). I'm not sure how much of a hit to productivity I would take using an x3D variant in this case.
you haven't given us any examples of programs you may use, so it's incredibly hard to spec for things we don't know about
 
4: I'm probably going to move my storage from my old pc to the new one since those have all my important files on, I wouldn't mind a case recommendation that makes installing HDDs easy if possible.
How many of these do you have? Most modern ATX cases only have space for 2x 3.5" hard drives, but even that can sometimes eat into the 2.5" SSD capacity, leaving you with just 1 bay, or even none.

6: I have 3 monitors, without moving my desk to get to the back of my pc I believe 2 are display port and one is hdmi, I'm assuming any modern gpu is going to be able to handle those though.
Yes, but multiple display support can always be a bit iffy, especially if they're different/high refresh.
 
you haven't given us any examples of programs you may use, so it's incredibly hard to spec for things we don't know about
Probably things like Blender or likewise 3D programs. And Davinci resolve for video editing.
I also want to use Spine2D (I don't think this has very high requirements though since it is a 2D animation program, can do some fancy things though so I'm not sure what it benefits most from.
Being able to use game engines like unreal/unity/godot smoothly would be nice, unreal being the most demanding I'd assume.
How many of these do you have? Most modern ATX cases only have space for 2x 3.5" hard drives, but even that can sometimes eat into the 2.5" SSD capacity, leaving you with just 1 bay, or even none.


Yes, but multiple display support can always be a bit iffy, especially if they're different/high refresh.
I currently have 2 m.2s, 1 SSD, and 2 HDDs (3.5).
I could probably swap out the SSD for another m.2 instead since the recommended motherboard has 3 slots, plus I have an pcie adaptor if I wanted a 4th.
 
Probably things like Blender or likewise 3D programs. And Davinci resolve for video editing.
I also want to use Spine2D (I don't think this has very high requirements though since it is a 2D animation program, can do some fancy things though so I'm not sure what it benefits most from.
Being able to use game engines like unreal/unity/godot smoothly would be nice, unreal being the most demanding I'd assume.
davinci uses the gpu predominantly
blender/adobe and unreal compiling uses the cpu predominantly
 
this would be my recommendation for your budget, leaving ~£350 for the OCUK build surcharge (not sure how much it'll cost)
9950x3d + 5070ti
2tb gen 5 ssd

to be honest, all high-end CPUs (intel and AMD) are power hogs, whilst the PA140 is an excellent air-cooler, you'd really need/want a 360mm AIO for best performance and acoustics

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £2,128.87 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
 
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Thanks for the recommendation Tamzzy.

You are probably very right with the AIO, but after having one leak and ruin a PC I'm too scared of it happening again. I'd rather just stick with an air cooler that can handle the TDP of the CPU.

More case/fan related but was wondering if anyone had recs on kitting this case out with fans: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/hyte...r-atx-case-strawberry-milk-cas-hyt-03188.html

It can take 10 fans total (120mm) so was looking at a few triple fan packs like this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-q...20mm-pwm-fan-white-triple-pack-fg-04f-bq.html
Is it worth kitting out all the fan slots in a case like this?

I'm also interested by this power supply, I feel like the included hub would make plugging in things much easier: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian...-with-usb-hub-power-supply-pow-lia-03763.html
 
This chap ran a 9950X3D with the MSI B850 GAMING PLUS WIFI and the VRM mosfets reached over 80°C, he reckons these board only good for upto 8 score CPUs if using it for more than gaming. He did the same tests on the Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite WiFi 7 and the max temps were around 40°C using the same CPU, although this board and Gigabyte higher tier 8 series boards didn't cheap out and they all use a good old heat pipe.

He did the same tests on a MSI B850M Mortar WiFi and the mosfets only reached 56°C.

 
This chap ran a 9950X3D with the MSI B850 GAMING PLUS WIFI and the VRM mosfets reached over 80°C, he reckons these board only good for upto 8 score CPUs if using it for more than gaming. He did the same tests on the Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite WiFi 7 and the max temps were around 40°C using the same CPU, although this board and Gigabyte higher tier 8 series boards didn't cheap out and they all use a good old heat pipe.

He did the same tests on a MSI B850M Mortar WiFi and the mosfets only reached 56°C.

Its stuff like this that makes me absolutely dread building a new pc, things are so complicated now and I have no idea if I'm getting the right thing or not :(
 
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That lian li PSU is fine, I would caution spending loads just for the bling bling. If you're going to kit that case up, that's easily 15% of your hefty budget gone.
80c is fine for vrm temps. It isn't the best of course, no denying that. You can always allocate a bit more to the budget to get a better mobo.
 
My main aim for performance improvements is productivity,

Just to put it out there but how about an upgrade to a Ryzen 5950 (or 5700X3D) and a RTX 5070 Ti? Just do the BIOS upgrade before fitting the new CPU.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,052.92 (includes delivery: £7.99)​
 
That lian li PSU is fine, I would caution spending loads just for the bling bling. If you're going to kit that case up, that's easily 15% of your hefty budget gone.
80c is fine for vrm temps. It isn't the best of course, no denying that. You can always allocate a bit more to the budget to get a better mobo.
Yeah you're not wrong, however I don't mind spending just a little more for some bling bling as it is also a present to myself, I'll think long and hard about it before a commit though. I am more concerned about getting the right components though, it is a bit more but was considering the https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...t-am5-ddr5-atx-motherboard-mot-gig-03856.html that Nelly mentioned.

I watched the video on this mobo too, which shows really good results so I think it would be a good idea to spend a little more for peace of mind too.

Just to put it out there but how about an upgrade to a Ryzen 5950 (or 5700X3D) and a RTX 5070 Ti? Just do the BIOS upgrade before fitting the new CPU.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,052.92 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

I did think about an upgrade rather than a new build, however I've settled on a new build for a few reasons.

1. I'd like to have a completely modern system that is also covered by warranty.
2. I'd also like to keep my old pc as a backup in case I need it for whatever reason.

If my current wasn't so old I'd be more open to an upgrade rather than a new build.
 
I watched the video on this mobo too, which shows really good results so I think it would be a good idea to spend a little more for peace of mind too.
if you're going to drop 220 notes on the board, then this is objectively the better board: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...d-am5-b850-atx-motherboard-mot-msi-03993.html

compared to the gigabyte aorus elite vs the tomahawk max:

tomahawk has:
8 layer pcb (6 layer on the giga)
better vrms (14x 80A vs 14x 55A)
better audio solution (alc 4080 vs alc 1220/897 depending on revision version)
more fan headers (8 vs 6)
5gb ethernet vs 2.5g on the giga

giga has:
rear io: 12 usb ports compared to the tomahawk's 10 - but tomahawk has 3 usbc vs 1 usbc on the giga, so potentially even a win for the tomahawk
 
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Its stuff like this that makes me absolutely dread building a new pc, things are so complicated now and I have no idea if I'm getting the right thing or not :(
For gaming they're still relatively simple to buy, but if you have workstation type usage (especially hitting the CPU @ 100% for long periods) you do need to be more careful with picking stuff (motherboards, coolers), which is just a reality of higher-end CPUs having 12/16+ cores that can use 150+ watts at full load (some can use 300 or more when power unlocked :o ).
 
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