Poll: Official 2025 British Grand Prix Race Thread - Silverstone Circuit, Northamptonshire - Race 12/24

Rate the G race out of ten

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Feek said:
I honestly don't understand how anyone can have rated it a one or a two but hey ho.
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Yeh, that's just silly. One of the most action packed races we've had in a while.

I rated it an 8, and it would have been higher if there was more jeaporady over who would win/the McLarens weren't so dominant. It became pretty clear early on that it would be Piastri or Norris winning the race.
 
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Mr Jack said:
Hülk breaking his podium duck got me looking at F1 records. Weird to see that Lewis and Alonso are actually tied on the most ever race finishes (both on 333) despite Fernando having 45 more race starts.
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Alonso has driven a lot of Renault powered cars during his career and an utter dog of a McLaren in 2016/7.
 
banja said:
Intrigued as to why the rumours are that Russell gets the chop before Antonelli. Maybe Max will insist on being no 1.
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well his contract only runs until end of season , and merc have a lot invested in kimi, as the next superstar. Plus Russell and max haven’t always seemed eye to eye so can’t imagine it being a great team.
 
Bounce said:
well his contract only runs until end of season , and merc have a lot invested in kimi, as the next superstar. Plus Russell and max haven’t always seemed eye to eye so can’t imagine it being a great team.
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Yeah I can't imagine Russell will have trouble finding a (good) seat.
 
Really enjoyable race! 8/10 for me - only because I felt like the penalty was a little OTT for Piastri and took away from what could have been a good battle between the two McLarens. I'm not sure on the exact rules around safety car penalties but would 5s not have been a better fit?

Happy that Norris won his home GP though, could see what it meant to him. I like Norris but there is something just a bit off about him, like the lights are on but no-ones home.

Fantastic for Hulkenberg, really deserved after that drive. I don't think he made a single mistake the entire race!

Nightmare from Mercedes, when they get it wrong they really get it wrong. Likewise Ferrari - no idea if Leclerc had actually managed to borrow Massa's 2008 Ferrari for this race but it seemed like he was spinning / going off track ever 5th lap. I enjoyed Hamilton's last stint on the dry tyres, alternating between getting the fastest lap and the gap to Hulkenberg dropping to 5s or spinning at Maggots and Becketts and the gap going back to 7s.

Considering the headlines of a 'disastrous' Red Bull weekend, Max recovering to P5 and getting pole position really isn't that awful. They knowingly compromised their race pace with the quali setup for pole, hoping if it was a dry race then Max would have a better chance at keeping others behind (probably not the McLarens) but it wasn't a total disaster ending P5. No words for Yuki really.

I do love a mixed conditions race, I just wish it had dried up a little earlier towards the end so we could have had Lando and Oscar in a proper battle.
 
t2na said:
Really enjoyable race! 8/10 for me - only because I felt like the penalty was a little OTT for Piastri and took away from what could have been a good battle between the two McLarens. I'm not sure on the exact rules around safety car penalties but would 5s not have been a better fit?
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The rules seem to allow 5s, 10s, drive through, or 10s stop-and-go for that infringement (it doesn't actually list one for 55.15, but that's for erratic driver under SC in general); given that 10s is their "standard" penalty and they felt it was worth punishing I think 10s is the right penalty. The penalty was clearly justified under the rules, but it also feels pretty harsh. I think he wouldn't have been penalised on another day, or if Max hadn't made a meal of it.
 
Mr Jack said:
The rules seem to allow 5s, 10s, drive through, or 10s stop-and-go for that infringement (it doesn't actually list one for 55.15, but that's for erratic driver under SC in general); given that 10s is their "standard" penalty and they felt it was worth punishing I think 10s is the right penalty. The penalty was clearly justified under the rules, but it also feels pretty harsh. I think he wouldn't have been penalised on another day, or if Max hadn't made a meal of it.
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Yeah, I agree, just felt a little harsh. I don't disagree that he should have got a penalty, it just felt like 10s was a little excessive.

Considering the conditions, the late safety car 'in' call and it looking really exaggerated because Max accelerates as Oscar slows down, it definitely felt harsh with 10s.
 
t2na said:
Yeah, I agree, just felt a little harsh. I don't disagree that he should have got a penalty, it just felt like 10s was a little excessive.

Considering the conditions, the late safety car 'in' call and it looking really exaggerated because Max accelerates as Oscar slows down, it definitely felt harsh with 10s.
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However the penalty wasn't based upon what Max did it was based upon the telemetry from Oscar's car.
 
I don't think he has much argument against it really, he's abruptly braked pretty hard in crap conditions with rubbish visibility down to 30mph on a long straight (the longest one on the circuit?).

Whichever way you look at it, that sort of action is going to land him in trouble with either reg 55.5 or 55.15

55.5
No car may be driven unnecessarily slowly, erratically or in a manner which could be deemed potentially dangerous to other drivers or any other person at any time whilst the safety car is deployed. This will apply whether any such car is being driven on the track, the pit entry road, or the pit lane.
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55.15
When the clerk of the course decides it is safe to call in the safety car the message “SAFETY CAR IN THIS LAP” will be sent to all Competitors using the official messaging system and the car’s orange lights will be extinguished. This will be the signal to the Competitors and drivers that it will be entering the pit lane at the end of that lap.

At this point the first car in line behind the safety car may dictate the pace and, if necessary, fall more than ten (10) car lengths behind it.

In order to avoid the likelihood of accidents before the safety car returns to the pits, from the point at which the lights on the car are turned out drivers must proceed at a pace which involves no erratic acceleration or braking nor any other manoeuvre which is likely to endanger other drivers or impede the restart.

As the safety car is approaching the pit entry road the SC boards will be withdrawn and, other than on the last lap of the sprint session or the race, as the leader approaches the Line the yellow flags will be withdrawn and a green flag and/or green light panel will be displayed at the Line.
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Given the outlined penalties for 55.5 (which they appear to have used as the guideline to penalise 55.15 here) are from 5s up to 10s SG, 10s feels reasonable to me - if it was a dry race with good visibility, 5s might be OK as you can argue others have the opportunity to see what he's doing, even if the action itself is still a bit stupid.
 
The Oscar penalty was justified - Max was a gnats hair off colliding with him and just missed him, you're not meant to near stop - he slowed down to single figures almost - those giving the penalty would know the exact speed he slowed down to - so in that regards, 10 seconds is fair - and quite lenient to be honest - had he hit him, that would have really messed up getting the race underway again.
 
Combat squirrel said:
The Oscar penalty was justified - Max was a gnats hair off colliding with him and just missed him, you're not meant to near stop - he slowed down to single figures almost - those giving the penalty would know the exact speed he slowed down to - so in that regards, 10 seconds is fair - and quite lenient to be honest - had he hit him, that would have really messed up getting the race underway again.
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Agreed.
 
sidimmu said:
seems to be some passport favouritism here....

Also so very typical by the FIA, there is a tolerance and an acceptable rate, but we are going to leave this up to the stewards to decide the tolerance each weekend.
Pathetic.
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Not at all though - Oscar braked twice as hard as Russell - 2x more isn't 'a little bit more' - also it was raining hard making braking more dangerous - also it can be argued that Max didnt brake that hard behind Russell trying to get him in trouble - he had double the amount of time to react and good visibility - in fairness to him on the other side of the coin, Oscar came out of no where in terrible conditions.

10s was fair here.
 
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