Christian Horner sacked!
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That’s Toto no? Toto’s leadership only got 7 WDC’s to Horners 8* but Toto has 8 WCC’s to Horner’s 6.
But of moot point really as yes, Horner’s an undeniably successful TP.
* depending on your opinion of that race.
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I very carefully made sure to only post "facts" as published elsewhere.
I stand by it, unless it can be corrected/refuted, and I will happily edit.
Its not a moot point when others discredit what he has done based on his personal life.
But yeah I'd argue he's been a better boss than Toto, half of Toto's championship comes from a rule/engine change.
All of those points can be mitigated to show its not really a problem apart from people claiming moral highgrounds.
Happy to break down every single one for you later if you want?
All it does is show that people are angry and cant accept or change their own interpretations and expectations.
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Almost like guiding a team through a change of regs well might be part of the sport?
Completely speculating here. But possibly to stop him going to a rival team, retained as an "Advisor"? Or still under contract so they dont want to pay some heafty release fee?
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If thats the only guide for what makes a good team boss, yippeee Toto wins.... Everyone can cheer again right?
My mistake, I saw what someone posted their statement on reddit, which was either incomplete, or not final. So at least they 'thanked' him in their statement.
Isn’t that like saying half of Horner’s championships come from Newey? The TP leads the ship so gets to take credit for the work done by everyone below.
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What's got up your nose today?
"Part of the sport" was directly in my post.... No strawmen here today please
I find myself feeling incredibly sceptical of this statement for so many reasons.
Presumably he’s on gardening leave
Isn’t the only guide for what makes a good TP is if you win? Which Toto has won more.
As I said, there’s no doubt Horner has been incredibly successful. But you posed your initial Horner is the most successful as a question, so I answered.
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Depends on the measure of success. Championships, sure. RB’s image, not so much.
But to reply with such a thing implies I have either missed it or dont believe thats a part of it?
So what were you actually trying to get at?
Isnt that the same as saying no team principle earns any champsionships, its the staff?
Not surprised with how things have been the last few years but this did come out of the blue as didn't really get the impression anything was happening in the background at Silverstone.
Wonder if Max is going too and this was the final straw, without him RB aren't going to be at the front of the grid.
Wonder if Max is going too and this was the final straw, without him RB aren't going to be at the front of the grid.
Flavio is quite frankly.. Vile. And it's been a reason for me losing my desire to support alpine for sure
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Jean Todt says hello. Not only did he win 6 drivers and 7 constructors but he won 4 championships with Peugeot in WRC during group B, won Paris-Dakkar 4 times and won sports car with Peugeot and Lemans twice.
Horner and Toto are shadows by comparison.