Superman: Legacy

[Baron C]

The movie was ok as a reboot for kids. Gunn taken the 'New 52' approach of starting the story a few years in. Kal hasn't really come into his own or matured into what he will become, lacks the experience and wisdom that hopefully comes with maturity.

The use of language where everything is throwaway joke or punchline is just dire.(Thanks a lot Joss)

Always hard for someone who grew up reading comics to try to be unbiased, it was a good shot middle of the range attempt, but just not cohesive as a whole.

The actors playing Clark and Lois were ok, in that earnest manner. Loved Krypto. (Wish they had better shown his really vicious protect my daddy Superman behaviour as every good doggy is prone to do)

The story could have been a better rip off of 'All star Superman' ( Grant Morrison love you for that) with it's surreal superman and eventual demise that then leads into a reboot with the clone?
Or just start with Red Son and make that.(Although the animated version is already there)

Or heaven forbid, make your Dcu franchise lead towards the 'Kingdom Come' storyline as an Endgame-esq with real perceived stakes.

Just feels like Gunn picked the wrong bits out of the story Arcs.
I do also think that the time between Chris' Reeves Superman' to present day Superman there was a huge 'deconstruction' of a lot of comic book characters. ( Hence the dark stuff and Henry Cavill portrayal )

It all seems like formula content filler, there is a reason that the best stories In comics stand out. They are actually conveying fundamental things to the reader, and letting you make your own call.

 

[C Kent]

yeah, sooo ignoring all the plot holes.

firstly its not a good superman movie, it is a ok cmb movie though compared to the recent offerings in the mcu. I think it shows that gunn didn't want to do a superman movie, its a bit of a mess imo. I'm tired of ensemble cast superhero movies, just gimme the main guy an maybe a.n.other when its billed as a 'superhero' (singular) movie.

Main guy playing supes.. terrible, but a decent clark.
Nathan Fillion's Guy Gardner, best thing in it by far an I'm really looking forward to the Lanterns tv series next year - wish Gunn just went with a green lantern movie as his starting point but understand why not, comparisons to gotg an dc not wanting to re-live the abomination from 2011 4 me, that sort of movie fits him better tho
Hawk Girl - why? Might as well not have been in it
Hoult's Luthor, good stuff, 2nd best portrayal - would have had to drop a bollock to be worse than spacey and the **** head from synders tho
Mister Terrific - meh
Carrington's Metamorpho - loved the actor since Barry, but it didnt work for me

Gunn's humor, bored of it.

Less said about the ******* dog being the McGuffin of the movie the better - cant stand the actor playing supergirl, worse thing in HoD.

5/10 for me, enjoyed MoS 100 times more.

 

[mrk]

I thought it was alright, funny moment, Super Dog scenes especially, brain off evening entertainment. Didn't see any wokery so I guess those folks are easily triggered lol.

not an 8/10 for sure, a 6 is reasonable, still an entertaining flick,

 

[cu3ed]

I dont think I can look past the idea that Lex Luthor build a super being so that he can effectivly button mash again Supes..W the absolute F is that about? Also, this Supes is well estabished in this world, so why the hell is is so bumbling and cliubsy in how he fights and does things. At least MOS established that he didnt even know how ot fly or fight in the first film.

Did anyone else roll their eyes with the usual fight scene/ random 80s song?. Jesus...can Gunn do absolutly anything else?

 

[Showboat]

This film was disappointing.
The dog… wtf get in the bin.
Superman being a punchbag for most of the film.
No explanation of the justice guys backstories.
Green lantern looking like a fat gimp with that stupid haircut.

3/10

 

[steve5424]

This film was disappointing.
The dog… wtf get in the bin.
Superman being a punchbag for most of the film.
No explanation of the justice guys backstories.
Green lantern looking like a fat gimp with that stupid haircut.

3/10

Guy's Haircut and look are straight from the comics, we didn't really need a back story for them as this wasnt their movie and as metahumans had been around for 300 years on that Earth they didn't really need to expand.

Krypto is a bit of a marmite thing. Some love him and others hate him. He plays a bif part in the Supergirl story too.

 

[unwashed potato!]

Awful. Just awful. Pure crap. James gunn has done it again. I do not like what he makes it is confirmed, other than guardians.

 

[Werewolf]

This film was disappointing.
The dog… wtf get in the bin.
Superman being a punchbag for most of the film.
No explanation of the justice guys backstories.
Green lantern looking like a fat gimp with that stupid haircut.

3/10

I really enjoyed it, and i'm not normally a big superman fan.

The dog was funny, and has been part of the superman universe for decades.
Superman getting punched, was actually quite refreshing as normally any sort of peril is over the moment the invincible man arrives, and although this is a different way to do it, he has been shown to be vulnerable a number of times in the past, at least this time it wasn't the normal "oh no, the bad guy got some kryptonite" way.
You don't really need a backstory for them in this film, this film basically covered superman's own backstory in about 30 seconds and a few lines. It was also mentioned that they were sponsored by some corporation.
Green Lantern was IIRC actually a good representation for at least one of the versions of green lantern - my brother in law who has been into the comics for 40 years, and IIRC has several green lantern collections certainly had no complaints about him.

My guess is that we'll possibly see the justice guys in their own film at some point, probably with more information on them then.

 

[Gerard]

Where exactly did the robot mechanics\janitors\medics at the fortress come from? Were they flat packed in his pod? I'd imagine this is explained in the comics and they feature in the comics, but having never read them they seem a little out of place if you go by the origins of the previous movies which were Cal-el and his pod and the fortress growing out a crystal with no robots knocking about.

 

[steve5424]

The robots in the comics sometimes had different designs but often Kal-El creates them with his super intelligence, the 50s/60s comics went crazy on sci-fi stuff

 

[ci_newman]

Watched this over the weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it.

No it's not going to win any Oscars but it was an entertaining way to spend a wet and soggy Saturday.

The nod to the next movie was a good intro too

 

[Nitefly]

One of the most consistent criticisms from the above posts is that ‘things / backstories’ weren’t explained.

Dunno, I had lots of criticisms (see my previous posts) but I didn’t feel like there was a need to ‘explain anything’ in that way…especially in this sort of film and I’m not familiar with the comics.

You’re never really going to engage with a film in you’re constantly asking ‘how / why’. For example, the movie’s emphasis on the dog irritated me, but I fully accepted that the dog was just there.

On the flip side, if you take everything for granted and watch a film ‘purely emotionally’ with your brain off as I often do (and as I suspect most ‘popcorn’ movie makers want), you then end up feeling rather silly when the flaws come to light from the court of public opinion. I had a fabulous time with Rise of Skywalker in the cinema and it was only watching a second time that I realised how messy and laughably nonsensical it was - derp

 

[ShortWarning]

Watched it at the weekend. As someone who is not really a fan of the DC (although I liked the Henry Cavil Superman films), I thought it was decent and was entertained throughout.

 

[ChroniC]

My god this is awful. I'm about an hour in and it's ridiculously cheesy.

 

[Werewolf]

The robots in the comics sometimes had different designs but often Kal-El creates them with his super intelligence, the 50s/60s comics went crazy on sci-fi stuff

Yup, and we know from all the previous versions that he arrived with a spacecraft that was equipped with a knowledge base and presumably enough that he could get a start on anything he needed (IIRC almost every version has the knowledge crystals and reader/display).
Any half decent lifeboat has basic tools to help you survive, and we know that Superman's lifeboat was something his parents built specifically to give him the absolute best chance possible. in "real life" we've got plenty of example of humans reusing bits of life boats, wrecked ships and downed aircraft to build shelters, tools to survive and even methods of travel.
The fortress of solitude that he's had in pretty much every version is more impressive than the robots, especially with things like the chamber that can remove his powers, and having the robots possibly explains how he built and maintains the fortress. I think it was implied/stated in the film that the robots were effectively maintaining/building more of themselves, as I seem to recall that #4 (Gary?) introduced superman to a new robot, which wouldn't have been necessary if Superman was the one doing all the work (so it's possible that superman built one/had plans and materials for one in the lifeboat or salvaged from it and once one was assembled it helped build more).

One of the most consistent criticisms from the above posts is that ‘things / backstories’ weren’t explained.

Dunno, I had lots of criticisms (see my previous posts) but I didn’t feel like there was a need to ‘explain anything’ in that way…especially in this sort of film and I’m not familiar with the comics.

You’re never really going to engage with a film in you’re constantly asking ‘how / why’. For example, the movie’s emphasis on the dog irritated me, but I fully accepted that the dog was just there.

On the flip side, if you take everything for granted and watch a film ‘purely emotionally’ with your brain off as I often do (and as I suspect most ‘popcorn’ movie makers want), you then end up feeling rather silly when the flaws come to light from the court of public opinion. I had a fabulous time with Rise of Skywalker in the cinema and it was only watching a second time that I realised how messy and laughably nonsensical it was - derp

My younger brother was pretty much "thank god they didn't waste an hour with his backstory, almost everyone on the planet must know it".
It's utterly pointless for them to redo the origin of characters every 5-10 years, especially if the origin never changes much/at all, the character is so well established that pretty much anyone with any knowledge of film/tv/comics or even just background cultural influences already knows it.

 

[ChroniC]

It angers me so much that every single time they make a new superman he basically destroys half a city, one second the public is all standing around under the most giant monster ever, nonchalantly without a care in the world, then the second the 4 skyscrapers are destroyed there's not a human in sight.

Didn't 50k people just get killed, ohhh no one cares, then seconds later, the rift is going to that trains station, 500 ppl might get hurt. Quick save them...

Next time they writers strike they should remind them of this movie and explain that's why they are so poorly paid.

 

[steve5424]

It angers me so much that every single time they make a new superman he basically destroys half a city, one second the public is all standing around under the most giant monster ever, nonchalantly without a care in the world, then the second the 4 skyscrapers are destroyed there's not a human in sight.

Didn't 50k people just get killed, ohhh no one cares, then seconds later, the rift is going to that trains station, 500 ppl might get hurt. Quick save them...

Next time they writers strike they should remind them of this movie and explain that's why they are so poorly paid.

They confirmed in the film that there was no casualties as the evacuation went smoothly.

 

[unwashed potato!]

It angers me so much that every single time they make a new superman he basically destroys half a city, one second the public is all standing around under the most giant monster ever, nonchalantly without a care in the world, then the second the 4 skyscrapers are destroyed there's not a human in sight.

Didn't 50k people just get killed, ohhh no one cares, then seconds later, the rift is going to that trains station, 500 ppl might get hurt. Quick save them...

Next time they writers strike they should remind them of this movie and explain that's why they are so poorly paid.

Agreed. Was totally awful.

 

[ChroniC]

They confirmed in the film that there was no casualties as the evacuation went smoothly.

So they managed to exacuate a few million people in a few hours.
It's maybe a minor issue but the story was full of stupidity imo.
Just felt like another superman for the mobile phone generation.. No build up, no emotion, just action action action.

 

[steve5424]

It was Superman straight out of the older comics really.

Does it all need to make logical sense? People are too caught up in thinking to hard about thing now they can't seem to just enjoy movies like they used to.

Its about an alien who was sent to earth and can fly and dresses funny. Why must everything make sense as if it's the real world.