EV general discussion

Junglist said:
Test drove a Model 3 yesterday. Needf to drop it off after work today. I'm really impressed but my partner isn't a fan - think she sees it as some sort of support to Elon and not what it actually is.. A car :rolleyes:
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In fear of repeating myself, people forget quickly about corporate scandals. I still to this day boycott Nestle and we do not and will not allow it in our house, but they killed actual babies, not sure how many of those the boss of Tesla has achieved other than having a big mouth and looking like a pillock - ask her if she investigates the Nestle baby milk scandal, just because it isn't 'now' should you still be supporting them?
 
Journey said:
In fear of repeating myself, people forget quickly about corporate scandals. I still to this day boycott Nestle and we do not and will not allow it in our house, but they killed actual babies, not sure how many of those the boss of Tesla has achieved other than having a big mouth and looking like a pillock - ask her if she investigates the Nestle baby milk scandal, just because it isn't 'now' should you still be supporting them?
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Talking of suchlike, back in the 70s, Ford were caught calculating that it wasn’t worth fixing a fuel tank problem with one of their car models because it was cheaper to pay out damages to any cases that went to court
 
I just think she doesn't really care about the car and is being difficult. I always have to drag her kicking and screaming into technology and then 6 months down the line she acts like she couldn't survive without it! She also thinks they're a bit flashy and doesn't believe me when I say they're one of the cheaper brands spec-for-spec.

She says that as we drive around in a bright blue Audi, mind you. So not sure how much weight to put in her opinion especially seeing as I am the one who will be paying if we do go for it. I am quite tempted to test drive a Polestar as well but the supercharger network is a massive boon in my eyes
 
Then just buy it and stop seeking validation from strangers on a forum. It’s obvious you have no issues with Musk and think “it’s just a car”. Frankly that’s a you thing and none of our business.

I wouldn’t touch a Tesla with a barge pole because Musk is a Nazi, but that’s a me thing.
 
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Junglist said:
I just think she doesn't really care about the car and is being difficult. I always have to drag her kicking and screaming into technology and then 6 months down the line she acts like she couldn't survive without it! She also thinks they're a bit flashy and doesn't believe me when I say they're one of the cheaper brands spec-for-spec.

She says that as we drive around in a bright blue Audi, mind you. So not sure how much weight to put in her opinion especially seeing as I am the one who will be paying if we do go for it. I am quite tempted to test drive a Polestar as well but the supercharger network is a massive boon in my eyes
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Had a Polestar for two years now if there’s anything you want to know mate - also be aware that the Gen 3 onwards Superchargers are open to all EV’s and not just the Tesla’s.
 
I would always advise forming a shortlist and 2 or 3 final test drives. Never just pick the first car that ticks the “new and shiny” box.
 
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Penfold101 said:
also be aware that the Gen 3 onwards Superchargers are open to all EV’s and not just the Tesla’s.
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This isn’t quite the case.

As a general rule, the sites which are open to all are a mix of V2, V3 and V4 chargers which tend to be located off the motorway network (e.g. retail park) but there are exceptions to this.

For example the V4 chargers on the north circular (London) and V3 chargers in Kings Lynn are Tesla only. The chargers at Frankly and Gloucester services (both M5) are open to all.

About 55-60% of the network is open in the UK, the % is increasing but that’s only from new sites these days.
 
After 8 months in and several trips up north and down to Cornwall, the Supercharger network "pro" for choosing Tesla is somewhat diminishing in my eyes.

Unless you can't charge at home or do regular sporadic/unplanned long journeys, Is it really a bonus?
 
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b0rn2sk8 said:
This isn’t quite the case.

As a general rule, the sites which are open to all are a mix of V2, V3 and V4 chargers which tend to be located off the motorway network (e.g. retail park) but there are exceptions to this.

For example the V4 chargers on the north circular (London) and V3 chargers in Kings Lynn are Tesla only. The chargers at Frankly and Gloucester services (both M5) are open to all.

About 55-60% of the network is open in the UK, the % is increasing but that’s only from new sites these days.
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Thank you - I’ve only used them once and thought it was just as simple as gen 3 onwards!
 
Junglist said:
Being poor is expensive!
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Yeah that's been my problem, been wanting an EV for years and years now but not had enough money to get into it in order to save money :( same for the people who are rich enough to buy battery storage for their house, they get to save loads of money.

Story as old as time though, rich get richer and poor stay poor :(
 
There are plenty of cheap used EVs out there that can save you money on fuels costs. Buy in costs for EV ownership are not even close to the barrier people make it out to be.
 
sovietspybob said:
Yeah that's been my problem, been wanting an EV for years and years now but not had enough money to get into it in order to save money :( same for the people who are rich enough to buy battery storage for their house, they get to save loads of money.
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I'm in the same boat unfortunately. Would love to get Solar/Batteries but can't really afford the up front cost.

An EV would probably also make sense for my car (9 miles/day for work), but I like my current car, dislike how boring and generic cars have become, and dislike the obsession with stuck on Tablets and touchscreen controls everywhere.


ICDP said:
There are plenty of cheap used EVs out there that can save you money on fuels costs. Buy in costs for EV ownership are not even close to the barrier people make it out to be.
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Sorry but I don't want a ****ing Nissan Leaf :D
 
Yaayuh! said:
After 8 months in and several trips up north and down to Cornwall, the Supercharger network "pro" for choosing Tesla is somewhat diminishing in my eyes.

Unless you can't charge at home or do regular sporadic/unplanned long journeys, Is it really a bonus?
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Absolutely, according to Tesla owners other EVs are restricted to local shopping expeditions and inefficient piles of crap*.

*This is obviously sarcasm but it does seem like how myopic some Tesla owners get.
 
Yaayuh! said:
After 8 months in and several trips up north and down to Cornwall, the Supercharger network "pro" for choosing Tesla is somewhat diminishing in my eyes.

Unless you can't charge at home or do regular sporadic/unplanned long journeys, Is it really a bonus?
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They charge my car slower than other cars aswell.
 
These days whenever I have stopped to use a super charger; they were either open to all or there was sufficient provision of other chargers.

The other chargers were at a much higher price mind, many are 2-3x the price but you use them so little if you can charge at home it’s not such a big deal but some people can’t get past this point. That said it doesn’t take much paying 70p+/kwh to dwarf my home charging costs with public charging.

The sufficient provision of other chargers didn’t used to be the case but it very much is now. Sure there are pockets all over the country which are over subscribed but those are getting less and less all the time.

I wouldn’t be concerned about having a car from another brand, I didn’t lease the Tesla because of the charger network, it got leased because it was cheaper than similar cars from other brands at the time (e.g. Kia EV6).
 
ICDP said:
There are plenty of cheap used EVs out there that can save you money on fuels costs. Buy in costs for EV ownership are not even close to the barrier people make it out to be.
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While there are lots of cheaper ones out there it depends on your daily milage, i work between 2 sites, one is a 60 mile round trip and another 80 so that rules out the dead cheap ones like original leaf's and Zoe's as i still need to be able to do it in the winter with lights and heater on and be able to go via a 25 mile diversion when there's the inevitable crashes on the country roads.

you could get into an old Ioniq for example but it's still a lot of money for most people, what £8k+? And then you need to spend at least a grand getting a charger installed and that's if its a simple install. For me as my parking isn't next to the house i'd need to run electric to a shed first and then on to the charger so that'll be an added expense.
 
Yaayuh! said:
After 8 months in and several trips up north and down to Cornwall, the Supercharger network "pro" for choosing Tesla is somewhat diminishing in my eyes.

Unless you can't charge at home or do regular sporadic/unplanned long journeys, Is it really a bonus?
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I have friends in Audi or Ford EV's.
They pay north of 75p per kWh at any chargers on the motorway network.

I think the 35p per kWh using a tesla is a big Pro!
 
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