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Tram said:
They are worrying they could collapse, papers being draw up to ask the government, for billions of pounds.
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can we just let the banks go out of business like most of these broadband companies will...

whos the idiot giving loans to broadband companies in the first place? yes a highly saturated market, heres a few billions of loans , it'll never end badly that.......

everyones money is protected anyway if they have any sense, no one has millions sitting in bank accounts these days, worst place to keep your money.

they arent banks they are payment processes with a god complex
 
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Trusty said:
I didn't say that. Tram did
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Ok, you just sound like him then.

Perhaps @Tram will be backing the claim up, but I doubt it.

The reporting is commercial banks are setting aside money for bad loans and the state national wealth fund is also on the line for some losses, after all that is its purpose, to fund risker projects that ordinarily wouldn't get funded.
 
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200sols said:
Ok, you just sound like him then.

Perhaps @Tram will be backing the claim up, but I doubt it.

The reporting is commercial banks are setting aside money for bad loans and the state national wealth fund is also on the line for some losses, after all that is its purpose, to fund risker projects that ordinarily wouldn't get funded.
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The issues in the sector are also set to affect the state-backed National Wealth Fund, which has committed £1.1bn for lending to altnets in recent years. The NWF has also offered indemnities to lenders on some riskier loans to the sector to encourage investment, according to two people familiar with the matter.The fund said that ensuring good internet connectivity across the UK was “key to [economic] growth — an essential part of the NWF’s mission”.“We only commit capital where we are needed and, in the case of altnets, where market appetite is restricted, we have worked to crowd in commercial investors to help meet the government’s Gigabit ambitions,” the NWF added.
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From the FT article
 
200sols said:
That's literally the purpose of the NWF. To fund riskier projects. This is not some 2008 style bailout.
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If the losses exceeded the National Wealth funds capital, it would land on the treasury.

I don't know about Tram but i don't think he's talking about some 2008 style bailout.
 
Trusty said:
If the losses exceeded the National Wealth funds capital, it would land on the treasury.

I don't know about Tram but i don't think he's talking about some 2008 style bailout.
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Well Tram said 'They're worried about collapse and 'papers' are being drawn up to ask the government for billions of pounds'. So yeah, that sounds like a bailout.
 
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200sols said:
Ok, you just sound like him then.

Perhaps @Tram will be backing the claim up, but I doubt it.

The reporting is commercial banks are setting aside money for bad loans and the state national wealth fund is also on the line for some losses, after all that is its purpose, to fund risker projects that ordinarily wouldn't get funded.
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Looking back at Tram's posting history - I wouldn't expect any logical response.
 
Trusty said:
If the losses exceeded the National Wealth funds capital, it would land on the treasury.

I don't know about Tram but i don't think he's talking about some 2008 style bailout.
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That’s correct and no, it won’t be like 2008 but theres going to be a few bailouts in all areas of our economy, but we are heading that way slowly but surely. The point is that many more financial problems are on the way. The UK government also has a lot of off the books contracts and obligations that remain hidden. hat’s why the £20 billion becomes £50 billion, then £80 billion—and before long we’ll be looking at £100 billion in bond market losses at the Bank of England next year, your going to bail the wealthy in this country again.
Thats why the clever millionaries are leaving the UK before more laws are create to steal the money.
Uk is in a debt death loop sovereign debt crises is coming.
 
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200sols said:
That's literally the purpose of the NWF. To fund riskier projects. This is not some 2008 style bailout.
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To give private companies the initial step they need to get projects off the ground, not to provide a full risk guarantee for the entire project cycle. it is design for return profit.
 
Tram said:
To give private companies the initial step they need to get projects off the ground, not to provide a full risk guarantee for the entire project cycle. it is design for return profit.
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Well you don't know the terms of the indemnity so that's just speculation.
 
mattyfez said:
That's why you should have a diverse portfolio, so if something like that does happen, you only have an annoying loss that you can ride out, rather than a retirement ruining personal financial crash.
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It has a bigger impact; you can diversify your portfolio to reduce loss but very hard to protect against systemic risk. The problem with some assets like property if you don't have income to pay taxes then they will take from you.

The problem is that income is being taken from everyone. Doing this increases the chances of a crash,as more types of taxes are introduced and the higher those taxes, become the greater the
likelihood of a crash and difficulty to get out of it.

You can manage one credit card, but if you have fifty, it becomes unmanageable. This is what's happening now. Income can only go so far before people stop spending. If they stop spending tax will need to rise cover this. Hence why it really bad.
 
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Tram said:
If has a bigger impact; you can diversify your portfolio to reduce losses, but not against systemic risk.
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If you're talking about the entire global economy collasping when you say 'systemic risk' then it doesn't matter anyway, we'll have much bigger things to worry about :)
 
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mattyfez said:
If you're talking about the entire global economy collasping when you say 'systemic risk' then it doesn't matter anyway, we'll have much bigger things to worry about :)
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Could be UK could be Western could be global.
France is going, UK following.
 
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