Hojlund went to Napoli, think Martinez is still at Villa. No idea on Sterling
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Hojlund went to Napoli, think Martinez is still at Villa. No idea on Sterling
They are good aren't they? They sell a lot
Not taking it very well is he. He might have had a point (not really though) if isak didn't score a 89th penalty against Brighton to get you boys a point, but sure he was deliberately missing chances
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Sterling "stuck" at Chelsea
I know the players we tend to get rid of are usually pretty poor but we do seem particularly useless at sales when you look at what other clubs manage. I think Lakonga was the only one we actually sold and I doubt that was for more than double digits.
People will complain about how Wissa, Isak, Gyokeres acted this transfer window, but they all got their move when the club initially did not want to sell them. Guehi? Strung along all summer, forced to stay at the 11th hour because he didn't play his hand.
You can't blame the players for this. Good behaviour does not get rewarded.
You can't blame the players for this. Good behaviour does not get rewarded.
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So @the wopster your new name.....
Given your posts in the Newcastle thread, you've got to have a tonne of Newcastle merch with Isak's name on!
4.5 mil I think I saw, which is shocking. I'm not sure where it fails as other big clubs get good sums, and I wouldn't think we're paying hugely over the odds for wages in comparison. Defo something the new chap needs to get a hold of, especially with the spend we've done so far.
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Yeah that new number plate he got for his car N1 SAK. He is going to have to sell on for a loss now.
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How does everyone rate their window?
I'm giving Brentford a solid 5/10. Our outgoings have been very good business indeed. Imcomings might have left us a little short, especially going forward where we've had to replace 45 goals/70% of our goals scored last season.
- £65m rising to £71m for Mbuemo. I've heard some very funny things that were thrown our way by United during the transfer - their leadership team calling our DoF up directly and having a moan that we wouldn't sell him below our asking price, saying it was unprofessional and please could we accept a lower bid etc. I loved watching Mbuemo play for us and he left in a respectable way. I wish him the best of luck.
- £55m for Wissa, a player we knew was off but we turned down a ridiculous £17m bid from Forest early in the window, and then took Newcastle from £25m to £55m by not blinking or getting involved in all the public mud-slinging. He behaved appallingly, constantly lying about some non-existent agreement he had with the club.
- £15m for Norgaard, a player we almost let go for free at the end of last season before his form picked up in the final few games and Frank wanted us to offer him an extension. Good money in that sense, but he was very important to how we play and it'll be interesting to see how we deal with it
- Ouattara for £42m! Ouch. Nelson on loan. Kayode in for £15m (unreal business). Kelleher and Henderson definitely don't look like upgrades at this point, but we'll need to give them time. Milambo could be very exciting, as could R. Donovan, the youngster.
- Losing Frank and some key backroom staff members was painful to watch. I'm unsure about Keith Andrews, both in terms of style as well as the weakened squad he has at his fingertips - definitely hasn't helped. We've gone from playing flowing and attacking football with excellent technique and composure in the final third, to playing defensive, sit deep, counter attacking stuff with big, pacey forwards scuffing shots at goal. It does feel like we've taken an almighty step back in terms of playing style and we look like we're trying to replicate the difficult-to-beat side of our first year in the Prem but with 4-3-3 rather than the 3-5-2 we were playing at the time.
This could also just be a settling down style of football whilst we gel under new leadership. That said, for the first time in three seasons I'm more than a little anxious we could drop a division this season.
One thing that really stood out was how much things get played out in public when dealing with certain of the bigger clubs - this is our first window when a number of our players have been a target by EPL peers. We've had good relations buying from the likes of Liverpool - quietly signing Carvalho, Kelleher and SVDB and Arsenal - Norgaard was signed in as respectable a manner as Raya was.
But selling to United and Newcastle this season has been ugly, and we've been continually briefed against in the press. With Mbuemo it came from United. With Wissa it came from his agent. But it's not something I've ever seen us involved in and it was particularly distasteful.
We've never changed our asking price (Mbuemo - it was always £75m) and we have never provided agreements to players outside of their contracts that we'd sell them (Wissa and this laughable agreement we apparently had in place). We're transparent and honest when selling and buying - Raya and Norgaard to Arsenal, Watkins to Villa, the Liverpool Three to us - and always aim to agree easily achieved add-ons both in and out.
It was quite depressing reading on here, the Brentford forums, and elsewhere, fans readily believing the nonsense certain journalists were coming out with - Brentford moving the goalposts with Mbuemo's asking price, Newcastle journalists insisting that Wissa was close to joining at £25m, then £30m, then £35m. We never once provided Newcastle with an asking price, so all this stuff was mad. It was all completely fabricated stuff and I'm amazed fans give it that much credence.
Can't say I'm sorry to see the back of this window to be honest.
I'm giving Brentford a solid 5/10. Our outgoings have been very good business indeed. Imcomings might have left us a little short, especially going forward where we've had to replace 45 goals/70% of our goals scored last season.
- £65m rising to £71m for Mbuemo. I've heard some very funny things that were thrown our way by United during the transfer - their leadership team calling our DoF up directly and having a moan that we wouldn't sell him below our asking price, saying it was unprofessional and please could we accept a lower bid etc. I loved watching Mbuemo play for us and he left in a respectable way. I wish him the best of luck.
- £55m for Wissa, a player we knew was off but we turned down a ridiculous £17m bid from Forest early in the window, and then took Newcastle from £25m to £55m by not blinking or getting involved in all the public mud-slinging. He behaved appallingly, constantly lying about some non-existent agreement he had with the club.
- £15m for Norgaard, a player we almost let go for free at the end of last season before his form picked up in the final few games and Frank wanted us to offer him an extension. Good money in that sense, but he was very important to how we play and it'll be interesting to see how we deal with it
- Ouattara for £42m! Ouch. Nelson on loan. Kayode in for £15m (unreal business). Kelleher and Henderson definitely don't look like upgrades at this point, but we'll need to give them time. Milambo could be very exciting, as could R. Donovan, the youngster.
- Losing Frank and some key backroom staff members was painful to watch. I'm unsure about Keith Andrews, both in terms of style as well as the weakened squad he has at his fingertips - definitely hasn't helped. We've gone from playing flowing and attacking football with excellent technique and composure in the final third, to playing defensive, sit deep, counter attacking stuff with big, pacey forwards scuffing shots at goal. It does feel like we've taken an almighty step back in terms of playing style and we look like we're trying to replicate the difficult-to-beat side of our first year in the Prem but with 4-3-3 rather than the 3-5-2 we were playing at the time.
This could also just be a settling down style of football whilst we gel under new leadership. That said, for the first time in three seasons I'm more than a little anxious we could drop a division this season.
One thing that really stood out was how much things get played out in public when dealing with certain of the bigger clubs - this is our first window when a number of our players have been a target by EPL peers. We've had good relations buying from the likes of Liverpool - quietly signing Carvalho, Kelleher and SVDB and Arsenal - Norgaard was signed in as respectable a manner as Raya was.
But selling to United and Newcastle this season has been ugly, and we've been continually briefed against in the press. With Mbuemo it came from United. With Wissa it came from his agent. But it's not something I've ever seen us involved in and it was particularly distasteful.
We've never changed our asking price (Mbuemo - it was always £75m) and we have never provided agreements to players outside of their contracts that we'd sell them (Wissa and this laughable agreement we apparently had in place). We're transparent and honest when selling and buying - Raya and Norgaard to Arsenal, Watkins to Villa, the Liverpool Three to us - and always aim to agree easily achieved add-ons both in and out.
It was quite depressing reading on here, the Brentford forums, and elsewhere, fans readily believing the nonsense certain journalists were coming out with - Brentford moving the goalposts with Mbuemo's asking price, Newcastle journalists insisting that Wissa was close to joining at £25m, then £30m, then £35m. We never once provided Newcastle with an asking price, so all this stuff was mad. It was all completely fabricated stuff and I'm amazed fans give it that much credence.
Can't say I'm sorry to see the back of this window to be honest.
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Interesting, Whitwell saying that the Antony sell on clause is not profit, it's full sale value.
He also says we asked about Donnarumma but he wanted 450k a week
He also says we asked about Donnarumma but he wanted 450k a week
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Interesting, Whitwell saying that the Antony sell on clause is not profit, it's full sale value.
He also says we asked about Donnarumma but he wanted 450k a week
yeah - even PSG have said in the past his demands are insane
Interesting, Whitwell saying that the Antony sell on clause is not profit, it's full sale value.
He also says we asked about Donnarumma but he wanted 450k a week
That would make sense because they paid **** all for him and that would be a reasonably concession to get him at a price they could afford.
So 23.5m a year, over 4 years thats just over 90m.
Doesn't seem so bad when there has been plenty of 75m flops (excluding wages) over the past few seasons by big clubs.
Just seems like the money involved is going into the player wages rather than club coffers.
Doesn't seem so bad when there has been plenty of 75m flops (excluding wages) over the past few seasons by big clubs.
Just seems like the money involved is going into the player wages rather than club coffers.
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yeah unless he absolutely storms it at villa and therefore increases his saleabilty, then I don't see utd activating the 12 month option on him. You've got to be pretty bad when a team prefers to hand out £5M in penalties rather than honour the commitment to buy.
I think utd have done really well in offloading the bomb squad. Anthony, Garnacho, Sancho, Rashford...none of them are about the place anymore to sow disgruntlement. Along with the guys whose contracts naturally expired, Evans, Ericsson,Lindelof, that is a sizeable chunk of money off the weekly wage bill.
Utd needed a keeper, and there was very little sign that they were going to move, but clearly the last couple of weeks performance made it imperative. Who knows what this new guy will be like, but I am hopeful/confident that it'll be an improvement. I expect one of the existing 3 keepers to go to whatever leagues are still open for business.
Cunhna and Mbeumo both look impressive, lets hope Cunhna's injury isn't too bad. Both showed a desired to come to utd, which is a requirement from utd that I like, rather than a player just holding out for the best deal. They both have some pace and bring energy to a team that for the last several years has always been bottom of the running distance stats. Sesko?....dunno havn't seen enough of him, hopeful he won't be the new hojlund...and hojlund is another chunk of money off the wage bill for this year.
Mount is almost like a new signing and I've been impressed with how aggressive he is in hunting down, but (once again) he is injured, unfortunate for the lad that he appears to be injury prone, and there is nothing he can do about that. Again lets hope it is something minor
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Even then we shouldn't touch him with a bargepole. It would be monumentally stupid. His wages are silly unless he is world class. He isn't. A club will pay those wages for a year because there is no obligation to continue paying them so its not a massive risk. To make it worthwhile extending his contract by a year we would have to be 100% guaranteed to get a fee of probably £10m which we probably wouldn't. No club would pay us any money and take on his wages so there is no incentive for Sancho to make that move. There is every chance we just loan him out for another year at best and a small chance he screws us over even more.
Rashford will be back here next summer almost certainly. Barca have high standards and he isn't up to them. Hes going to be another Sancho I imagine. Going out on loans and coming back each year after underperforming his salary. The rest of them were good to get rid of though.
Yeah I think in general its been a good window. The problem is the midfield unfortunately. Amorim is unwilling to adapt to the fact he doesn't have any players that are good enough and suit the system to play in that 2 and its going to hurt us a lot this season. Just how much remains to be seen.
Mount is a shame because as you say, he is really useful in Amorims system but if he can't stay fit this season, sell him. There absolutely no point having players who are injured more often than not.
I am really hoping Lammens is great, and he does look good - but I feel like we've missed a trick not signing Martinez. I do favour going for young players in general, but this is the one position where we needed some arrogance and experience.
Man Utd is not a place you can just develop a young team, it will never work. The scrutiny is too severe, it needs to be done gradually.
That said, I want Amorim to just start him and Sesko against City, and let's see what they can do.
Man Utd is not a place you can just develop a young team, it will never work. The scrutiny is too severe, it needs to be done gradually.
That said, I want Amorim to just start him and Sesko against City, and let's see what they can do.