The Arsenal Club Thread - In Memory of robfosters

I'm not calling for Arteta's head yet, semi-finals of CL and potentially finishing 2nd in the league is basically in line with expectations. The question the board will have to ask themselves is whether they are prepared to back him in the transfer market this summer, which could be a risk if things go south and they end up with expensive players not suited to a replacement manager next year.
 
HangTime said:
I'm not calling for Arteta's head yet, semi-finals of CL and potentially finishing 2nd in the league is basically in line with expectations. The question the board will have to ask themselves is whether they are prepared to back him in the transfer market this summer, which could be a risk if things go south and they end up with expensive players not suited to a replacement manager next year.
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Although Andrea Berta is officially in charge of transfers now. Arteta will have some input, but it's football director driven in theory
 
What are we expecting the lineup to be tomorrow? Last I checked Odegaard was "in contention" so I'm assuming he is going to start. If that's the case I'm guessing:

----------------Raya--------------

Timber - Saliba - Gabriel - Calafiori

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----------Odegaard - Rice-----------

----Noni - Gyokeres - Martinelli----


I would've liked to have seen what Eze could do instead of rushing Odegaard back but it might not be the best idea to experiment at Anfield even if I think he could do incredibly well there. I know he can play on the left but I don't see Arteta putting him there, I just hope he doesn't come on in the 70th minute with most of the game gone. Martinelli usually has a good game against Liverpool I think he'll get the nod over Trossard and Eze. Hope we can try and involve Gyokeres a bit more, you can tell that we aren't used to playing with a proper number 9. That ball over the top from Calafiori that's the kind of thing we need to see a lot more of tomorrow, Gyokeres has the pace and the strength to make something of those sorts of balls, especially when you consider how crap Liverpool's defence have looked in their games so far. That said I still think it's going to be a low scoring game and can't see either team running away with it, I'm thinking a 2-1 or a 2-2. I would take a point at Anfield but we do have the quality to upset them.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
What are we expecting the lineup to be tomorrow? Last I checked Odegaard was "in contention" so I'm assuming he is going to start. If that's the case I'm guessing:

----------------Raya--------------

Timber - Saliba - Gabriel - Calafiori

--------------Zubimendi--------------

----------Odegaard - Rice-----------

----Noni - Gyokeres - Martinelli----


I would've liked to have seen what Eze could do instead of rushing Odegaard back but it might not be the best idea to experiment at Anfield even if I think he could do incredibly well there. I know he can play on the left but I don't see Arteta putting him there, I just hope he doesn't come on in the 70th minute with most of the game gone. Martinelli usually has a good game against Liverpool I think he'll get the nod over Trossard and Eze. Hope we can try and involve Gyokeres a bit more, you can tell that we aren't used to playing with a proper number 9. That ball over the top from Calafiori that's the kind of thing we need to see a lot more of tomorrow, Gyokeres has the pace and the strength to make something of those sorts of balls, especially when you consider how crap Liverpool's defence have looked in their games so far. That said I still think it's going to be a low scoring game and can't see either team running away with it, I'm thinking a 2-1 or a 2-2. I would take a point at Anfield but we do have the quality to upset them.
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I would hope Eze will play on the left instead of Martinelli.
 
I feel a bit broken as an Arsenal supporter right now. I feel like checking out already just because it's the same every season. The most injuries of any club year on year shows there is a problem. It cannot be unlucky at this point. Then the gutless performance against Liverpool. A Liverpool side that were there for the taking more than I can remember at Anfield for a long time. They've not been playing well and were lucky against Newcastle.

Normally, playing for a draw away to Liverpool is fine, but if we want to actually have a go at winning the league, we need to take risks and actually try to win these games. We refused so many forward passes out of fear and being coached to play super defensive. We don't learn though. Arsenal need 50 chances and shots to score a goal. Other teams do it to us week in week out where they take one shot and score. Arteta keeps playing Odegard and Martinelli who have gone way off now and shouldn't be getting game time at all.

People will say this is an over reaction and there's a long away to go etc. Not really. I think this was a season defining game against Liverpool and puts us on the back foot already. The Liverpool machine will keep grinding away and winning. Arsenal will slip up because we're not clinical and still can't score in open play easily. Gyokeres hype was just that...hype. He looks slow and doesn't make the right positional plays and runs. I don't think he will be the striker we all hoped for, but to be fair, he's not getting any service to truly judge him fully yet.

Overall. Same old ****. We need to face the reality that Arteta is just not up to it. He's had time. Years. Years of nearly. Runners up is good but it's a results driven business and he's not delivering what we strive to achieve. I want to see an attacking Arsenal that scores goals. Yes we've improved defensively and physically now but we were never a set piece team historically. To rely on corners is lame.

Here's to second place again. Cheers.
 
jaybee said:
I feel a bit broken as an Arsenal supporter right now. I feel like checking out already just because it's the same every season. The most injuries of any club year on year shows there is a problem. It cannot be unlucky at this point. Then the gutless performance against Liverpool. A Liverpool side that were there for the taking more than I can remember at Anfield for a long time. They've not been playing well and were lucky against Newcastle.

Normally, playing for a draw away to Liverpool is fine, but if we want to actually have a go at winning the league, we need to take risks and actually try to win these games. We refused so many forward passes out of fear and being coached to play super defensive. We don't learn though. Arsenal need 50 chances and shots to score a goal. Other teams do it to us week in week out where they take one shot and score. Arteta keeps playing Odegard and Martinelli who have gone way off now and shouldn't be getting game time at all.

People will say this is an over reaction and there's a long away to go etc. Not really. I think this was a season defining game against Liverpool and puts us on the back foot already. The Liverpool machine will keep grinding away and winning. Arsenal will slip up because we're not clinical and still can't score in open play easily. Gyokeres hype was just that...hype. He looks slow and doesn't make the right positional plays and runs. I don't think he will be the striker we all hoped for, but to be fair, he's not getting any service to truly judge him fully yet.

Overall. Same old ****. We need to face the reality that Arteta is just not up to it. He's had time. Years. Years of nearly. Runners up is good but it's a results driven business and he's not delivering what we strive to achieve. I want to see an attacking Arsenal that scores goals. Yes we've improved defensively and physically now but we were never a set piece team historically. To rely on corners is lame.

Here's to second place again. Cheers.
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Arteta's team selection was disgusting against Liverpool, his whole tactic was to pass the ball back and forth between defenders the keeper and midfielders. You can't blame Gyokeres when we have the Basque Bodger who destroys all of our attacking output to the extent we're one of the worst in the league for expected goals from open play

I was actually all in with Arteta but it's depressing at this stage. His football is worse than Mourinho's without the trophies
 
Did any of you see how Liverpool played, they didn't have a touch in our box for ages in the first half and outside of the goal did very little either. It was an edgy encounter where both teams defended well and in numbers which was only won by a wonder goal. Stats wise it was very even, it was pretty clear from watching it it was pretty even but all everyone is saying is how poor Arsenal were. I'm by no means Arteta's super fan but away to Liverpool was never going to be an easy game regardless of how they started.
 
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