Caporegime
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£140 a month I think!
Maths haven't ever been my strong point (But man-maths certainly are!) so I can't quite work out which plan is better. I'm currently with E-On. I have never switched provider before so I'm not sure how simple and straight forward it is.
E-On 'Next Drive Smart'
Standing Charge: 60p
Unit rate: Peak (0600-11:59) 27.67p/kWh Off-Peak (00:00-06:00) 6.5p/kWh
Octopus 'Intelligent Go'
Standing Charge: 53.7p
Unit Rate: Peak (05:30-23:30) 31.81p/kWh Off-Peak(23:30-05:30) 7p/kWh
On paper it looks like the E-On one is cheaper both peak/off peak but has a higher standing charge.
The bit that confuses me is people say that with Octopus you can end up getting a lot more 7p hours as it can change throughout the day whereas the E-ON one is fixed. But would I be right to assume you would only get the cheaper hours if your car is plugged in? Seeing as I would be at the office 3 or 4 days a week, I wouldn't necessarily be getting those bonus cheap hours during the day?
E-On 'Next Drive Smart'
Standing Charge: 60p
Unit rate: Peak (0600-11:59) 27.67p/kWh Off-Peak (00:00-06:00) 6.5p/kWh
Octopus 'Intelligent Go'
Standing Charge: 53.7p
Unit Rate: Peak (05:30-23:30) 31.81p/kWh Off-Peak(23:30-05:30) 7p/kWh
On paper it looks like the E-On one is cheaper both peak/off peak but has a higher standing charge.
The bit that confuses me is people say that with Octopus you can end up getting a lot more 7p hours as it can change throughout the day whereas the E-ON one is fixed. But would I be right to assume you would only get the cheaper hours if your car is plugged in? Seeing as I would be at the office 3 or 4 days a week, I wouldn't necessarily be getting those bonus cheap hours during the day?
I'm on the OIG and our standing charge is 45.32p a day and 27.77p kWh peak.
Does it vary from region to region?
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Yes by a lot
This is what i'd pay for OIG
Night rate (23:30 - 05:30)
7p
Day rate (05:30 - 23:30)32.94p
Standing charge68.34p
North Wales electricity is a lot more expensive than almost anywhere else for some reason, its really annoying!
There's a handy (and incredibly annoying if you live where i do
) chart here, as usual London wins again compared to the rest of the country..: https://www.uswitch.com/gas-electricity/guides/regional-energy-prices/
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Yeah must vary then, I'm in the East Midlands...Yes by a lot
This is what i'd pay for OIG
Night rate (23:30 - 05:30)
7p
Day rate (05:30 - 23:30)
32.94p
Standing charge
68.34p
North Wales electricity is a lot more expensive than almost anywhere else for some reason, its really annoying!
There's a handy (and incredibly annoying if you live where i do
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That's not an insignificant amount either! I believe it does as Postcode is the first thing they ask for
Yes, you only get them if you've plugged it in and Octopus schedules it to charge outside of the normal off peak times and your car accepts the charge.
The other benefit is if you need to charge from basically empty for whatever reason then Octopus will do the full charge at the low rate whereas you wouldn't get long enough on the off peak rate from Eon to fully charge.
For some reason Octopus list the off peak as 7p everywhere but you only actually get billed 6.67p
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I'm on IOG and honestly I have no clue
They know exactly how many kWh you've charged so I don't know if the whole house gets 7p on those hours or just the energy to the car?
You need a compatible car or charger to access that octopus tariff
It’s hard to say exactly how often you get cheap electric outside of the peak time but it happens reasonably often. It’s not likely to ever be between 4.30pm and 7.30pm* but it can happen a lot outside of those hours.
*if you play the game in the spirit it’s means to be played. It can be gamed to give you a lot more slots but to expect that will be clamped down on eventually.
Both car and the charger I'm looking to have installed should not be an issue
That's the bit I'm stuck on. The car wont be plugged in normally between 0700-1530 Monday-Friday, other than the 1 or 2 days a week I work from home. So I'm not sure if I'd really benefit from the whole house having those bonus hours.
Though things like running the dishwasher/tumble dryer at night may give a little benefit.
It's hard to compare like-for-like as E-On have quoted £107 based on our actual usage for their Smart EV plan but I only get a standard fixed quote from Octopus at £118 a month but that's not accounting for their EV plan.
That's the bit I'm stuck on. The car wont be plugged in normally between 0700-1530 Monday-Friday, other than the 1 or 2 days a week I work from home. So I'm not sure if I'd really benefit from the whole house having those bonus hours.
Though things like running the dishwasher/tumble dryer at night may give a little benefit.
It's hard to compare like-for-like as E-On have quoted £107 based on our actual usage for their Smart EV plan but I only get a standard fixed quote from Octopus at £118 a month but that's not accounting for their EV plan.
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I don't know about Eon but there's no exit fees on Octopus so why not try one for a month or two and then the other?
You're paying 4p/kWh more with Octopus and barely saving anything else? I'd not switch on those terms
That's what my gut is saying to me but I know most people really rave about Octopus so I wasn't sure if I was missing something