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The Intel Arc owners thread

If Nvidia can have a refresh, why not Intel? But it all comes down to price / performance. A raw B770 should be 60% more powerful than a B580. That makes it more powerful than a RX 9060XT. Add in a clock boost, maybe 24 GB or even 32 GB RAM and Intel will have another winner for £350-£399.

With a 256Bit bus and GDDR6 it can only be 16 or 32GB, Cores also don't scale liner, they scale at about 70% so 60% more cores amounts to about 42% more performance which is about 5% to 10% faster than a 9060 XT 16GB at 1440P.

The thing about that is even with a Ryzen 9800X3D the B580 scales 10% better at 4K than it does at 1440P and about 5% better at 1440P than at 1080P, compared to AMD Nvidia has a problem with CPU scaling, compared to Nvidia Intel has a problem with CPU scaling, when your FPS in games like Assassins Creed Shadows and Dragon Age Veilguard are 23 FPS and 28 FPS at 4K with a B580 then even the B770 isn't a 4K card, just as the 9060 XT and RTX 5060 Ti are not 4K cards, they are 1440P cards.

Don't get your hopes up, reviewers will use the 9800X3D which costs 2X what the B580 costs, which is so far outside of reality with a sub £300 budget card its not even funny but it does show them in the best possible light, even then, with that ridiculous CPU its scaling is going to hamper it to at least some degree.
Ironic that AMD's super fast gaming CPU is what stops it looking like complete garbage.
 
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Big boy Battlemage a possible B770 looks to be released in November after shipping manifest was spotted for it's packaging materials. Set to launch in November.


32 Xe cores (B580 has 20) and 16Gbs of vram this could potentially set the cat amongst the pigeons if Intel prices this right gives the RTX 5070 and RX 9070 something to think about.
 
If Nvidia can have a refresh, why not Intel?
Because it was never a refresh, it's just a very delayed product at this point

True, but a higher tier of Intel GPU is still welcome for me personally, I've really enjoyed using the Arc B580, having a beefier high end option will be great too. I don't like Nvidia's monopoly in the GPU space and I can't bring myself to buy an AMD GPU :p, so I probably will pick up a B770 at some point to support competition. and run Bodycam better.
 
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True, but a higher tier of Intel GPU is still welcome for me personally, I've really enjoyed using the Arc B580, having a beefier high end option will be great too. I don't like Nvidia's monopoly in the GPU space and I can't bring myself to buy an AMD GPU :p, so I probably will pick up a B770 at some point to support competition. and run Body Cam better.

I did consider a B580, until I saw benchmarks. Not a good a 4070. Similar or worse to a 4060. High CPU overhead. And software DX9 support.

So that turned me away.
 
I did consider a B580, until I saw benchmarks. Not a good a 4070. Similar or worse to a 4060. High CPU overhead. And software DX9 support.

So that turned me away.

I bought the A770 and the B580, I get why people would just buy Nvidia for more performance, part of it for me is about supporting a competitor to Nvidia, fun to try something different as well. I've found the B580 surprisingly capable at 1440P. It has gotten better over time with each driver as well. Bargain for the price imho.
 
Due to a faulty AMD card I picked up the B580 while it was £216 (inc BF6) as a stop gap. I must say I wasn't expecting much, but having used it for a good week now I'm pleasantry surprised at it's performance at 1440p paired with a 5700X3d.
 
True, but a higher tier of Intel GPU is still welcome for me personally, I've really enjoyed using the Arc B580, having a beefier high end option will be great too. I don't like Nvidia's monopoly in the GPU space and I can't bring myself to buy an AMD GPU :p, so I probably will pick up a B770 at some point to support competition. and run Bodycam better.
Genuine interest, why?

I don't like Nvidia as a company, all things being equal i will support AMD over Nvidia, not that i think AMD are perfect, for me they have some of the same issues Nvidia have, but they are the lesser of two evils.

Again all things being equal, they aren't always equal, sometimes AMD don't offer what i'm looking for, or their GPU's just aren't competitive, in such cases i absolutely will buy an Nvidia GPU, my last 3 GPU's before my current AMD one have all been Nvidia. my next GPU might be an RTX 5070 Super if it turns out to be what i'm looking for, i'm not going to cut my own nose off to spite the big green monster, i will buy what gets ME the most for my money, its up to AMD to entice me with my money and sometimes they do, i'm happy when they do.

The reason i ask there seems to me this weird tendency with some people who outwardly claim to hate the Nvidia monopoly and yet their attitude and actions seem more comfortable with Nvidia having this monopoly than the idea of AMD challenging that monopoly, i give you Steve Burke (GN) as an example, when he spends his time talking about monopoly's and its not just about Nvidia having one its about how Intel should be challenging AMD's marketshare, not Nvidia and its also not AMD's job to take marketshare from Nvidia, no that's fine and apparently as it should be, his most recent GN news video talked about recent JPR marketshare numbers and on Nvidia's now quoted 96% share he went to some length and detail about how this in inevitable and nothing to be concerned about. Very odd, to me.

And then it comes to Intel's marketshre being 0, now he starts talking about how there is anecdotal evidence that Intel's sales are actually good and that he thinks that Intel are actually taking AMD marketshare, like an obvious hard cope, this is what he wants to see but isn't.

AMD are not going anywhere, they are only going to ramp up their competitiveness, for Intel eventually they are going to have to start charging for their products at a competitive level, the truth is with that they are not going to out do AMD on price to performance and features, its going to cost Intel many more Billions and serval more generations to catch up with AMD and they already have more debt than they are worth.

Tech Jurnoes like Steve Burke created this Nvidia monopoly because their ego responded to Nvidia marketing people paying them a lot of smiley face attention, now they are suckered in by the same marketing team who have moved to Intel, this same marketing team still has the same ego to convince you to overpay for garbage again, the thing that you hate about Nvidia, the people who created that are now at Intel.
Its already working, you're already infantilising Intel.
 
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Well yes, but at a much reduced price.

Not really


Extra VRAM of the Intel will desirable..however performance of the Intel was good, but not great. If it could be 20% faster than the Nvidia..whilst being the same price or cheaper..without any drawbacks, sure I would have considered it.
 
Genuine interest, why?

I don't like Nvidia as a company, all things being equal i will support AMD over Nvidia, not that i think AMD are perfect, for me they have some of the same issues Nvidia have, but they are the lesser of two evils.

Again all things being equal, they aren't always equal, sometimes AMD don't offer what i'm looking for, or their GPU's just aren't competitive, in such cases i absolutely will buy an Nvidia GPU, my last 3 GPU's before my current AMD one have all been Nvidia. my next GPU might be an RTX 5070 Super if it turns out to be what i'm looking for, i'm not going to cut my own nose off to spite the big green monster, i will buy what gets ME the most for my money, its up to AMD to entice me with my money and sometimes they do, i'm happy when they do.

The reason i ask there seems to me this weird tendency with some people who outwardly claim to hate the Nvidia monopoly and yet their attitude and actions seem more comfortable with Nvidia having this monopoly than the idea of AMD challenging that monopoly, i give you Steve Burke (GN) as an example, when he spends his time talking about monopoly's and its not just about Nvidia having one its about how Intel should be challenging AMD's marketshare, not Nvidia and its also not AMD's job to take marketshare from Nvidia, no that's fine and apparently as it should be, his most recent GN news video talked about recent JPR marketshare numbers and on Nvidia's now quoted 96% share he went to some length and detail about how this in inevitable and nothing to be concerned about. Very odd, to me.

And then it comes to Intel's marketshre being 0, now he starts talking about how there is anecdotal evidence that Intel's sales are actually good and that he thinks that Intel are actually taking AMD marketshare, like an obvious hard cope, this is what he wants to see but isn't.

AMD are not going anywhere, they are only going to ramp up their competitiveness, for Intel eventually they are going to have to start charging for their products at a competitive level, the truth is with that they are not going to out do AMD on price to performance and features, its going to cost Intel many more Billions and serval more generations to catch up with AMD and they already have more debt than they are worth.

Tech Jurnoes like Steve Burke created this Nvidia monopoly because their ego responded to Nvidia marketing people paying them a lot of smiley face attention, now they are suckered in by the same marketing team who have moved to Intel, this same marketing team still has the same ego to convince you to overpay for garbage again, the thing that you hate about Nvidia, the people who created that are now at Intel.
Its already working, you're already infantilising Intel.

It's not AMD as a whole, just the GPU's, I'm using an AMD 9800X3D. The last AMD GPU I bought was DOA and killed the mobo I was using. Recently, their cards aren't powerful to enough to be the top ones, and there not really priced well enough to be a bargain. I guess I'm, just not interested atm. This may change with new cards. GPU market really needs a shakeup.
 
if rumours are correct intel are about to release Arc B770 which might be somewhere between 5060ti-5070 and if priced correctly I can see it doing well. I hope they Intel succeed, because more competition the better it is for us customers. If intel wants to succeed they need a decent GPU for gaming and AI purpose, its the future really. (sorry could not find a intel arc section dedicated to it but this is the closest I can find.)

 
Looking for a temp card to replace my ageing RTX 2060 6GB, and noticed the B580 deal with BF6..

What is the best B580 to get, looks likes the sparkle suffers from coil whine, so I don't fancy that.
So it's between the Acer, asrock steel legend and the Intel LE.

Card will be upgraded to a 5070ti Super assuming the price is right.

CPU is a 9800x3d, so the CPU overhead issue won't be a problem.

Cheers
 
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I'm travelling so I cannot tell you exactly which B580 I have but it has two 8 pin power connectors and no coil whine.
 
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